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Look let's not pretend here the aim for this season is promotion, that is the stated aim within the camp,publicly it's two years but in reality now is the time. Sure there are various threads of misfortune playing a part but there are valid concerns over performance dropping off since we went...

Roger Van Gool :-o

I see from that link someone has done some wiki style editing on Joy Seppala right near the bottom in (people who look in here also looked at others)

Nor rhyme. ;-)

Just watching last night's episodes now on catchup, bloody brilliant.

So did anyone pick up any info /whispers at the match yesterday?

Good point there RB Certainly brings a focus back to the problem. Was getting a bit woolly around the situation.

Whichever way you look at it there is no guarantee that a changing GK or bringing in a new one will change things. The main reason we've become more prone to concede is the loss of first choice experienced personnel. We're still a lot tighter at the back than has been the case for seasons.

Nice one Liam!

In the rain especially, water on screen =Diffuser

Samuels was very effective until LO did the Job on him. JOB??

Totally agree.

Many a ref would have stepped in yesterday as we see on a weekly basis on TV. This one could have much earlier in the game as it was any obvious tactic from the off.

Remember Mcallister rolling his years ago /possibly strained ligaments also, then played about three days later. Amazed!! Have done this myself a few times and it is very painful, prone to reoccur afterwards as well.

I'm not so sure It's just other teams setting up to nullify us. We seem to be much slower in our overall approach /passing movement. We also seem too slow to make up the ground between midfield and attack, IE the space between the two Is too great,that's something I've thought for the...

Echo all of that. Gutted for him. No doubt about it we have missed Reda.

Good thread topic here. I can only concur with what you all are saying and add that it is a symptom of the modern era, whereby the rights of the Individual to choose, supercede those of Mass benefit. What I mean is its fine if behind the wheel of offending technologies such as these but...

There really is no room for sentiment here. He's keeping younger more able players out of the team. His decline is sad really when compared to Dennis Wise who was much older and hadn't played for around 6 months prior to joining us. When you take into consideration the number of ATM 's...

We are lacking a little fire in the belly. The likes of Norwich and Southampton used to mob the referee during their promotion seasons. We seem to just accept these adverse decisions which are becoming a common theme with a whimper. Man up City.

Yeah I think it will be tight today also