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So it's not his fault that the players we have left have lost points from winning or even drawing positions? Or that they've failed to adapt to changes in the opposition? Or that there appears to be no plan B from the steadfast footballing philosophy that's yielded two wins? How long will his...

51% club member ownership according to here, although it points out that this can have drawbacks too - http://pitchinvasion.net/blog/2010/03/11/fan-ownership-the-bundesliga-model/

I heard they'd taken a loan against the season tickets already sold for 11/12 ie. the direct debits, but nothing more than that. Where did you see this?

Thorn showed signs last season that he could avoid defeat and get an average points haul with players we no longer have over a handful of games. This season he has shown over a lot more games that he cannot avoid constant defeat and 24th place with the players we do have. Regardless of the...

I wouldn't count Bantam as people personally, he's just a Boggle game filled with swear words. The thing with people concentrating on the manager is that it's an immediate change that can be made, whereas obviously the ownership is a long, arduous ordeal. I don't think there's anyone who thinks...

You still won't turn up.

I haven't seen anyone who fits this here, to be honest.

As low as the income may get, it's still more than the £0 from having no team play there at all surely.

Why would they make such a threat?

Sweepstake on how many threads glen starts.

I don't think anyone's recommending otherwise.

There's a huge case for pretty much everyone involved in the whole farce to be honest - even Puma have heard that the necks are too tight!

That's of course far too many goals conceded and games lost to be explained away by freak occurrences, which suggests errors are a result of our inability to deal with opposition. If this is such a continuous theme that we seemingly have no idea how to change, the question must be asked of the...

I'm not sure either, but you definitely have to have a limit somewhere.

Never trust vets, that's the lesson here.

But at what point do you actually look at the manager's role in proceedings and attribute him some responsibility for our predicament? It's his team selection and organisation that's seen us take leads, but it also his that have lost the leads.

Definitely not failed managers retrospectively excusing their failings or anything. Always the evil owners.

Of course the tactical side of games are important, seeing how our opponents have continually changed theirs to turn our leads into their points.

I remember that game vividly, I much preferred that Barcelona side to the one now, the likes of Hagi, Koeman, Romario and Stoichkov. Romario's still the best pure finisher I've ever seen.

Whatever the working conditions enforced on Thorn, it really can't be ignored that we've surrendered points from winning positions on a number of occasions. If the players he has can lead games, they should surely be able to win more than two of them also. I don't feel he can close a game down...