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And the other thing, which makes your idiotic comment look idiotic, is the teams you mention regularly beat the best teams in the world. We don't. When is the last time we beat a really good team in a tournament? Germany in the Euros when Shearer scored with that header?

Of course it's not an idiotic thing to say. So many people were saying how much better a team we are this time round and it has proven not to be the case. As soon as we met a good team the same old failings were there. Without the 'easier path' we would probably have been knocked out ages ago...

Been saying for the whole tournament that you have to take your chances.

Don't ask me to think that far back. I really can't remember who we played past Cameroon, Belgium and Germany.

Well beaten in the end. No excuses.

Be reserves. Almost certainly. Pointless game.

Anyone else not going to bother watching the final on Sunday now? Don't think I could stand all the diving and feigning injury and time wasting etc. It's not sour grapes, I just don't think I could stomach it.

But without pissing on any chips, we only came up against one half decent side, who a lot of pundits and ex England players were saying we not that good a side. We were beaten embarrassingly easy in the end tonight.

Alli was indeed anonymous. Poor tournament from him overall.

We gave up on the cavalier play we have shown at times and went back to the old conservative England. The game was there for the taking and we blew it.

Yep, agree. First good team we came up against (forget Belgium, that was reserves v reserves) and we lose. We were very much second best in the end and I know Southgate has had a lot of praise, but he got it wrong today. Kane was too deep, Rose for Young should have been earlier and we needed...

We looked like the team that was shattered. Croatia just kept running and running all night long. Put us to shame with their energy and stamina.

This makes Rio Ferdinand and Gary Neville look like mugs saying Croatia are a very poor side. They have been far, far better than us since the first half.

This is it I think. Croatia will time waste and time waste and time waste.

Kane looks shot.

That's it. We have run out of steam. It's staying where it is, it's staying where it is, it's staying, staying where it is. :(

Nope. Linesman has missed two clearly over the line too.

Worked against Sweden, but tonight he HAS to be further up the pitch.

Free kicks now all seem to be going against us. If this goes to pens I think we will lose. I know we did well last time, but still, can't see it happening again.

Ball out of play there surely.