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  1. skybluetony176

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    Dare I say but you can thank Brexit. I heard an explanation for it the other day that made perfect sense. When we had freedom of movement with the EU we had very fluid immigration with the natural control being the availability of jobs. The majority of people weren’t permanent immigration...
  2. skybluetony176

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    So the current status quo then. How’s that going?
  3. skybluetony176

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    So do we need an agreement with the EU then?
  4. skybluetony176

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    Didn’t an “illegal” immigrant from Afghanistan win the award of NHS Doctor of the year a couple years back? Was smuggled into the UK as a teenager before being granted asylum I seem to remember. In the big scheme of things “illegal” immigration isn’t the issue. Legal immigration far outnumbers it.
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    Are you suggesting that he’s using immigration to expose who’s going downstairs? :)
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    I wonder how a lot of politicians who claim to be Christians level their views on immigration, especially those seeking asylum with being a Christian.
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    TBF it doesn’t seem to be. You have 3 major religions Judaism, Christianity and Islam all believing in the same God each with multiple sects in them. All three religions are largely in disagreement with each other on how good should be worshipped and understood. Then within each of those there’s...
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    We’ve spent the last 14 years lurching further and further to the right and with each lurch things got worse. I’m 51 and I think I have to go back to the my childhood and the 70’s to remember the country being such a mess. The polls have shown that most people in the UK have grown tired of right...
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    I wouldn’t worry about it Pete. The brand of right wing populism sweeping many countries are just a bunch of talentless charlatans who when faced with real responsibility will crumble. Look at Argentina, they wanted him out with in a couple of months, mass protests most weeks. They’re stuck with...
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    I’ll be sure to stop breathing out. I wouldn’t want to be accused of being a hypocrite. I actually said it was about balance. That means that you can have it both ways.
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    Hardly. We all have a carbon footprint by simply being alive. Do literally anything you do to remain alive and you’re a hypocrite if you want to be pedantic about it. The issue is we’re out of balance. I don’t eat meat and consume barely any dairy as I still eat the odd chocolate bar. Don’t...
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    Careful. Grendull will be along in a moment to accuse you of sounding like an 18 year old Marxist. It’s good to see you making the case for being world leading in achieving net zero though, given that will mean that energy providers charging at the highest cost of production will mean that...
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    Of course we should be world leaders. It’s moronic to not want that. We have cheaper zero carbon electricity now. The price to the consumer is skewed by the energy price cap and the effect of fossil fuel generated energy on it. The sooner we phase out fossil fuel energy the more we’ll feel the...
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    So you accept that we’re not doing it in isolation then so there is a point.
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    All different commitments so it’s difficult to give you a definitive answer but basically the biggest polluters are looking to achieve it by 2050 or 2060. The information is out there, you can educate yourself should you choose instead of listening to the moronic drivel from the right and...
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    You’ll be pleased to know that we aren’t leading the way. Many European countries are on target to hit net zero long before us. In answer to as why we should do it the answer is simple. It’s economically illiterate not to. The countries driving the industry will be the ones to benefit...
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    Just checked. It’s over 140 countries that have committed to achieving net zero. Including China, USA and India.
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    But the UK is not doing it in isolation. There’s other 100 countries aiming to hit net zero in a little over a decade. It’s part of something much bigger.
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    That’s why we need checks and balances such as the ECHR. You take the checks and balances away it’s the start of sleepwalking into being governed by megalomaniacs.
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    Apparently the Sunday Times has endorsed Labour today. So either the Sunday Times has turned into a socialist rag or Labour under Starmer really isn’t that socialists after all.
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