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Interesting parallel

Two different standards though really. We've seen how atrocious QPR are defensively, of course any half decent defender would improve them.

I think it better to reduce the amount of trophies to just the Champions League

He looked better once the others came on. He was poor prior to that but in his defence he just didn't have the options a lot of the time, Andrews wasn't near him and KKH wasn't as supportive in attack as MVE.

Doubt it, their reserves have just beaten us

Well we didn't pick up an injury to a key player and we're out, great. One early season league game doesn't decide your fortunes in the competition.

Through the grebos, the crusties and the goths?

He reminds me of Bassette

All starters 5 bar Grimes All subs 6 Lampard 5 (same score I'd give for any manager making 8 changes)

I know some weird 1992 fans like being knocked out of cups but I don't and I'm pissed off by that

As soon as JDS opens his body up like that the ball is the keeper's. Really not sure what Brau is at this point.

KKH has got worse as the game has gone on

If you're going to bring them all on anyway why not start the game with them rather than break momentum. Piss poor all over

I've been a big fan of Jamie Allen over his time but there isn't a suitable role in the team for him now imo

Nonsense - he's had nothing at all to work with

Raphael decision making appalling

Andrews and Allen just not brave enough in possession

His passing forwards is missed as well

I mean Allen hasn't been great but he just hasn't got in his locker what Torp had