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There’s a reason the fascists are into androids and waifus

Then we’re back to industries not having the people they need. See the US and how they’ve had to row back for tech and agriculture because business needs workers at both ends of the spectrum. And you can say train them here but someone needs to pick and pack in warehouses and clean old people’s...

Foreign students are generally spending huge amounts on fees and keeping universities open in places with not much other economy left. If you gut them you’re raising fees for British students, probably also raising taxpayer subsidies to these places, or you’re telling a bunch of voters their kid...

“Politics is show biz for ugly people”

I think it’s perfectly valid to say you don’t want a million people a year entering or whatever restrictions you want. It’s just another policy. I just wish anti immigration Polticians wouldn’t pretend it’s a cost free panacea. Look at the ICE bill in the US. Enforcement costs a LOT. Taxes have...

OK but history tells us that people won’t elect a government saying that and polling tells us you are in a very small minority of people who care so much about immigration you’re willing to pay more tax. So like the rest of us with fringe views you’re gonna have to lump it in a democracy. Look...

The economic model relies on more people. The system we have means that the taxes of working people pay for the care of the elderly (and the young but they pay off in the future) More people are living longer (yay) and the longer you live the more expensive your care gets, plus you need...

They don’t need to. But I think you’d be surprised. I’d bet parliament has more privately educated, oxbridge educated, and other elites than most organisations.

Same reason CEOs can, the job is more about managing people below you than making ground breaking technical discoveries.

I mean I’m part of the public. I too don’t have the time or resources to properly understand stuff beyond chatting shit on the Internet. Worryingly many MPs seems to ignore that in favour of the same social and other media that makes the public so misinformed.

Public perception on pretty much everything is wrong. It’s one of many reasons why referendums are such a bad idea. We pay Polticians to understand stuff for a reason. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/british-public-wrong-about-nearly-everything-survey-shows-8697821.html

The UK public.

Well illegal is hard cos it’s illegal innit? But legal migration is over a million a year inwards. From the report I posted earlier estimates are maybe a tenth of that illegally. Total estimates of current illegal stayers is around a million I think and obviously foreign born total in the uk is...

This thread really shows how muddled public thinking on immigration is. Half think there’s more illegal than legal. And most change their mind when asked what tradeoffs they’d make to reduce it. People on average seem to have no issue with legal immigration: So basically a plurality are...

They really aren’t. We need people. If we cut immigration we’d have to massively raise taxes or cut services.

Data is short on it particularly recently but overstaying your visa is probably the number one source of illegal immigration with a majority being tourist visas: For comparison this is refused asylum seekers: from: Unauthorised migration in the UK - Migration Observatory It’s the classic...

Are we signing Gyokeres then?

10 points. Fuck it start as you mean to go on.

Good shout on Colin. Another win for this lad then.

How many Doyles?