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Who is going to buy the club? Unless you are a fan it would be the last club in the country you'd buy. You either stay in a Wasps branded ground with minimal income or you have to stump up and pay for a new stadium. Why on earth would you want to be owned by someone who would quite happily move...

Did wonder that. Haven't had time to look at it closely but the timelines on when they supposedly started talking to Wasps and when Fisher was publically stating we were leaving don't match do they? Even as far back as when we returned to Higgs under Waggott he was talking about it being long term.

Unbelievable, already trying to justify Wasps hiking our rent up.

So what do you think will happen if Wasps continue to not speak to the club about extending the current deal?

We're in a slightly different situation this time. Wasps won't talk to us regarding extending our Ricoh deal and are academy facility is being removed. Doesn't leave us with a lot of options does it? Should he have refused to answer?

Started writing a reply saying that even our council aren't going to fall for some of that. Then I remember who we are dealing with and changed my mind! How does that work then, you have to accept this planning application because if you don't another one we haven't even submitted and don't...

KMPG ran us through an administration process in all but name. SISU were the only option left when it became clear CCC wouldn't sell the ground to the club. SISU said they weren't interested if the club had gone into formal administration. Who do you think was going to take their place if that...

I think there is probably a very good reason the changes at Higgs have been separated into two different projects and will form two different applications. Any mention of the pool now, and the loss of facilities it will bring, can be dismissed as nothing has even been submitted for planning. It...

Yep, roughly £400K a year pre-Sixfields, I was told 'significantly more' since the return. There was also some bizarre things like us being responsible for pitch maintenance but getting nothing when the pitch was hired out to others. But at its most basic we've paid more in rent to date than...

We'll have paid over £8m in rent by the end of this season. That doesn't include the amount the club put in to the project before selling to Higgs.

that's the first flounce for a while :D

There used to be so many record stores in town. I used to get the bus in on a Saturday morning go round them all, then off to Fishy Moores. After that a walk up to HR calling in at Hits and Misses on the way.

Really, do you think if we add up our initial outlay, rent and matchday costs it would be less than Wasps have put in?

Him starting the season at Newcastle could work in our favour. If other clubs Newcastle might put him out to get themselves sorted before he becomes available we might move up the list. Still a long shot though.

But their the richest team in Europe and aren't even paying for this themselves, they're after a sponsor.

But Wasps have 16 other sites that they have chosen to keep confidential so that nobody else can make use of them. Would you not think if there was an issue with Higgs they would make use of one of them. Of course that might all be PR and it was going to be Higgs all along :jawdrop:

The same argument could be made then. The club would just come in and say the academy was refused a renewal to allow Wasps to move in and cite the same issues.

The situation can't be as desperate as some seem to think if Mowbray is happy not to take players like this and wait for a better option. Or maybe he already has a better option with Reid.

I don't think it will get refused either but I can't see how you can bypass objections just by going we might not let the current tenants stay anyway.

Not sure how its really relevant to Wasps planning application but you've got that slightly wrong: 1) It was Higgs who kicked up about the insurance. The company that was in administration and subsequently liquidated couldn't maintain an agreement for the academy to train at Higgs, how would...