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  1. chiefdave

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    My fear is the EU are going to push us out as quickly as possible giving us little time to negotiate good deals. The £350m a week certainly won't materialise as its not a valid figure and any deal with the EU is sure to include freedom of movement so the two biggest polices are write offs.
  2. chiefdave

    Boxing

    Who and what channel?
  3. chiefdave

    Coleman

    I reckon if we'd have signed Gareth Bale and kept Coleman we'd be doing better than we are.
  4. chiefdave

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Won't be too easy to forget what was promised. Looking at the official leave campaign site it seems their key pledges are: Extra £350m a week to spend on the NHS, schools and housing Control of our borders Control of immigration Trade deals with the whole world - specifically mentions...
  5. chiefdave

    Euro 2016 big thread

    They may be League One sides but Wales don't have a particularly hard route to the final. Would you bet against Wales reaching a final before England?
  6. chiefdave

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    In any case the FTSE250 is probably a better indicator for the impact of the referendum.
  7. chiefdave

    Parking next season

    The EU has been in constant change since it was formed. That's not going to come to a shuddering halt no matter what the result of the referendum. The difference now is we will be attempting to influence those changes without a seat at the table, unless you're suggesting we won't continue to...
  8. chiefdave

    Parking next season

    I'm certainly not saying the likes of Cameron and Osbourne aren't full of BS but what would have changed with the situation with Turkey joining the EU prior to the referendum if leave had won? Cameron has always been a supporter of Turkey in the EU but even if he was on the winning side he...
  9. chiefdave

    Parking next season

    Go on then, what major policy changes were remain promising if they won?
  10. chiefdave

    Parking next season

    Who are you trying to keep out? The vast majority of workers who come from the EU come to do jobs that UK citizens can't / won't do. It will have zero impact on immigration from non-EU countries. And of course there are other potential impacts. Already the mayor of Calais is pressing for the Le...
  11. chiefdave

    Parking next season

    By the time there's another budget, emergency or otherwise, it could very well be Gove rather than Osbourne - god help us.
  12. chiefdave

    Parking next season

    That's exactly my point. It seems to me the two issues at the forefront of the leave campaign were the amount going to the EU, that could instead be spent here, and immigration. Within hours of a leave vote both were being retracted. If I'd voted leave on the basis of one, or both, of those...
  13. chiefdave

    Parking next season

    Those that voted leave what was the big issue(s) that made you vote that way? I'm seeing a lot of people citing the £350m a week extra we will have (already backtracked on that) and immigration (leave saying they are not sure they can lower immigration), was it one of those or something else?
  14. chiefdave

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You mean like the Conservatives 16 point contract with voters in the 2010 general election? The one where they said "if we don't deliver our side of the bargain, kick us out in five years"? Didn't actually stick to any of the 16 points yet got a bigger share of the vote in the next election!
  15. chiefdave

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Don't know what everyone is worried about anyway, sure everything will be fine
  16. chiefdave

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Sure the vast majority of those who have signed have given it no thought and just signed it as a joke but there will also be those who see it as a serious proposition. With so much of the nations wealth in one city its pretty much the same argument again.
  17. chiefdave

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    The only way you could do it would be to have a compulsory vote. Then you'd have a majority of the electorate voting one way or another.
  18. chiefdave

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    I'm surprised Labour hasn't made a move like that even prior to this. With the SNP strong in Scotland as an alternative to the Conservatives its going to be incredibly difficult for Labour to regain ground. A coalition of sorts with them, and possibly also firming up the link with the SDLP could...
  19. chiefdave

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Why compare the Euro to 18 months ago? It was still down from the financial crash then. Look longer term and you see it was recovering and has now dropped again. Of course that's only one day, we'll need to wait and see how it pans out.
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