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Shipley drops out of the 18.

I haven't seen it, though was interested, but now I know Pablo is dead, I probably won't bother anymore. Cheers.

How many times did he die then?

Unfortunately some people do choose the welfare system. My neice does it and the neighbours across the road do it. They can work, but don't work and choose to not to and simply live off the benefits system. That's not what it's there for.

Just him or are there 10 other players alongside him too?

Yeah, hate that it's just 16 regular season games. I wonder if they would ever consider a knockout cup competition to go alongside the Super Bowl journey. I am guessing not.

Understand that, but this is just something I see everyday around me in the flesh, so it tends to rub your nose in it somewhat.

Good luck with that.;)

No, I agree Clint, but I see people abusing the system. Really annoys me. Cheating occurs through the entire fabric of society though, I get that. Doesn't make it any less annoying.

I admire his toughness, but there are times where he insists he plays when he clearly isn't fit enough to play.

So hard to distinguish who is a scrounger and who is vulnerable and needy isn't it. So many cheats and liars with no moral backbone, who will abuse every system going if they can.

I agree, but I boy have you just lit the blue touchpaper.

How old? Late 40's?

Jordan Erica Webber from the Gadget Show, though a lot of that may be down to it being a girl who's really into gaming.

Would just have to lie and say they have added channels for free. ;)

Ha, yeah, but when I suggested having more channels, my dad said 'we don't want any more flippin channels'. My mum is fine, but my dad is so stubborn.

As I've said before before, I do think he WILL be the GOAT one day, but I don't think he's quite just there just yet.

Ha, ditto. Dad had one, never ever used it. It's stuck in a drawer somewhere. Every time I ring my mum she rejects the call by mistake. Still can't get the hang of the red and green little icons to slide, so slides her finger in the wrong direction.

Yeah, my thinking. They even have 3 for a pound down the charity shop, but my parents have stacks of DVD's. Only thing I can think of is to buy a shed load and take away their old ones.

How old are they if you don't mind my asking?