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Okay. I thought I heard him say two players were out for 8 weeks. Did I hear that wrong then?

Clive Eakin is a pretty good commentator actually, but he does get so many names wrong. Players and teams. I hear other commentators do it and then correct themselves. Unfortunately, I don't think Clive realises he's done it half the time and he'll make the same mistake a number of times on...

I can. For someone else.

Yep. I don't think people are advocating communism, just a fairer society.

I sort of agree on Shipley, but there was certainly a lot more bad than good to my mind.

Well that's the thing on that first point. Hiwula was very, very poor and JCH not that much better, but Bakayoko is now out for 8 weeks. You can't play Chaplin up front on his own, so either Hiwula or JCH have to play don't they?

Not trying to be funny here, guys, but when arguments tend to come down to a two way he said, she said and on one single point of inconsequential reference, everyone else gets excluded and left out, especially when the debating point goes on and on for quite some time back and forth. Wouldn't...

Think it's 8 weeks out for Willis and 8 weeks out for Bakayoko.

Or maybe Shipley can land on his own leg.

I have to disagree unfortunately. I don't think he is panicking at all. He's not that type of manager to panic. I just think he's damned stubborn. Some of his choices and subs are strange though for sure.

Also think 3 for Chaplin is a bit daft. The bloke only played for 25 mins and hardly saw the ball.

I think the score on Bayliss is a bit harsh. He didn't have a good game, but there were flashes of great play from him and he has to be scored higher than Shipley, surely.

Was a massive problem. They won just about every single header and every single second ball. Burge kicking long was a tactic that I don't think worked at all, all day long.

Think you will find, if you look back at the posting history, they get shit whatever the result because they are so poor at times.

Yeah? For which team?

He seemed to immediately go wide right for some reason.

Not worse than me I don't think. I had a very shitty journey home. 45 min walk. Umbrella blew inside out and broke, so had to throw it in the bin. Got totally soaked to the skin. Was wearing glasses so constant raindrops on my lenses making my visibility poor. Dropped my gloves in a puddle...