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I think you're right. I think we'll be at SAs next season. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

But getting back to Cov short term (Ricoh) is easier than getting back to the Ricoh long term (new stadium), yes? In which case, it's in Wasps hands. And for the umpteenth time, Sisu dont get a free ride. I dont know why some on here think that?? The obviously dont. Us playing in Cov next...

When you say shes probably agreed in principle...theres nothing she can do to get us back. The ball is simply in the franchised rugby clubs hands. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Well, compared to Waldorfs then yes. Think theres two in Berlin. Was it the Alexanderplatz one? Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Ha ha! I'm sure theres others within Hilton that call the brand budget but its doing it a disjustice. I've stayed in a few Hamptons and they're good hotels. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Cant comment on that as I'm genuinely unaware of this new hotel. Get your point though ;-) Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

That may be. They still sit as either O&O or Franchised. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Well, I've worked for Hilton for 10 years, on property and above property...the last 5 years out of out EMEA HQ and have sold all brands to some of the largest companies in the UK as well as some of the world's largest sporting organisations. We're well drilled not to call brands like Hamptons...

And your last point is correct. But Hilton have never owned all their hotels. It's just the % of O&O vs Franchised had decreased over the years. That's not unique to Hilton but rather symptomatic of the whole hotel industry. Same for Marriott, IHG, Accor etc. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Your Hilton contact shouldn't be calling it budget, that's incorrect (as per my post above). Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Just to clarify...hotels can either be owned/operated or franchised. As an example...Hilton Wembley (owned/operated), Hilton Belfast (franchised). Same with DoubleTrees, Hamptons, Hilton Garden Inns etc. To the customer, there should be no difference if you walk into an O&O compared to a...

Mid-tier as opposed to budget. Hamptons are good products. And they can be owned/operated as opposed to franchised as well. Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

The bit about me picking the lad up from nursery?! Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Cant really argue with that TBF.... Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

Shmmeee, my original post was in response to olderskyblue who said look at where we were when Sisu took over and where we are now. We were on a downward trajectory when they took over. They're therefore not 100% responsible for us being lower now than when they took over. As mentioned earlier...

Looks like he's been picked up from the park on a Friday night after downing a litre of cider. Anyway, welcome young man and good luck.

You've just contradicted yourself in one post - 'ITV digital collapse didn't have an effect, you sure about that?' and then 'Where we are now is all them'. Well, you've just said it's not. Don't be stupid and hark back to the JH days...but to say that our predicament, the last 10 years and our...

C'mon Shmmeee, that's a stupid thing to say. Of course not as they didn't directly have any impact on our position now. Richardson overspending and the advent of the whole Ricoh project clearly has had an impact on our current situation. Again, you're better than that....

Not a dig at you DoD. Just a light hearted take on the forums discussion ability.

I agree with your sentiment but Sisu are not the only ones responsible for the whole 'where were we when they bought us/where are we now' argument. There's quite clearly a few parties who contributed to our freefall down the leagues, starting with the likes of Bryan Richardson, Mike McGinnity...