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It's very sad news, but as usual you get the OTT almost faux outpouring of grief. I saw this morning a Cardiff fan's message on a sheet laid at a memorial 'Forever in our hearts'. Nice thing to say of course, but they only signed him on Saturday and he hadn't even played for them yet. Almost...

Probably traced his family tree previously. That's what my family did. Traced back to 1066 on one side and the 1600's on the other. Guessing olderskyblue has done the same. One side on my family is pretty much all Nottinghamshire and the other, the Cotswolds, Warwickshire and Wiltshire.

Ha. So you have too come on a thread and then post on that thread that you don't care. Won't expect anymore replied from you on this matter then. ;)

Not sure. Guess we will only find out for sure tomorrow as to what the thinking is when Pep picks his side.

Yeah, a guesstimate for sure, but why not then play U21'S players tonight? 9 of their starting 11 are 18 and under. Surely that points to the resting of those who are 19-21 and the remaining 18 year olds.

It is different because Man City clearly wanted to play kids tomorrow. In order to do so they have had to pick a shed load of 16 and 17 year olds tonight. 5 of tonight's team are 16 or 17, so 16 year olds against what is surely a strongish, first teamer Sunderland side.

That 22/1 bet still looking good.

That kind of points to kids in tomorrow doesn't it? Seems they have picked from their U18's and lower tonight and then the U21 players will be selected tomorrow night.

Naked pics of Ann Widdecombe.

But this is the cup and clubs do rest players for cup competitions if they deem them to be of less importance than the league. Bit different to a U21 game on a Friday and a league game on a Saturday. Man City from the first leg have earned the right to rest players for the second.

Tim Minchin, Louise's brother.* * They are not related, but must be, because no-one had ever heard of the surname before these two appeared on the scene.

Yeah, thanks, Tim.

Really stupid of the FA (or whichever body it is) to make Man City play both tonight and tomorrow. Crazy. I know it is an U21 team supposedly in the EFL Trophy, but that rules out any of that side bring able to be picked for the Carabou Cup game.

22/1 for a Burton win and both teams to score in the return leg tomorrow. Very good odds that I would say.

I would use an alias if I were you, because they might have already heard of you.

In this country that's known as stalking.

Wimp.

I am not surprised. The suggestion is ghstuo to 10,000 shops across the UK will close this year. The way forward is leisure by all accounts.

Yup. We've been saying that for ages on here. Far too deep.

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