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So why are they not talking then? What do you say? Surely that is the very first step. They say it is because of the legal situation. You honestly think the council haven't spoken to, or influenced Wasps in any way. If people don't think Wasps are saying no because of the council dispute, then...

Well someone should have. Why didn't they?

Makes perfect sense. Not my fault you don't understand it.

They have, but the main players are Sisu and the council. We need to persuade Wasps that they can offer us another deal while the legal dispute is still going.

The legal dispute is between the council and Sisu.

Already explained that.

Why? Because the dispute is between Sisu and the council.

I would say Party Party and Dark Side of the Moon are quite comparible in terms of classic-ness

As I keep saying, it's Sisu and the council that need to be the main targets.

Yes, but I do think many believe Wasps hold the cards and don't want to piss them off.

No, I agree. I just cannot see people getting off their backsides and doing so until we are homeless though.

Nope. Same here.

Because it involves the Ricoh I presume.

Yeah, fair point, that.

It's the same with Jon Sharpe isn't it? Why won't he deal with Sisu?

Isn't that what you think? There is no other reason for Wasps stance is there?

I am saying one is different, because it is a kind of forced upon them stance. If there is blackmail it is from the council. If Wasps have development plans they need the council on side.

Big difference to my mind, if Wasps are just wanting to keep the council sweet. That is not of their own volition and they would be just taking onboard the advice from elsewhere. I am of course just guessing their reasoning, but that seems to be the only reasoning possible doesn't it? That the...

Not blackmail. Wasps need the council onboard I think. They see them as some kind of allies at the moment. I think that is why they are toeing the line they are toeing.

What I would like to know, following Specs' post is, how many City fans also attend Wasps. I think there could be a lot of pressure there if Wasps ST holders, who are also City fans said they would give up going if the Sky Blues are found to be homeless.