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They've got that fan ownership rule there too. Maybe when more clubs begin to collapse football will become a little more grounded again, although I can't see it any time soon.

There's no way in hell 80% of people are being disorderly. It's Coventry, not Mogadishu.

Being drunk and disorderly is already an offence.

He looked his sharpest for a long time before and after the goal, certainly wasn't as quiet as suggested. The goal was a snap shot with his left (I think) right into the bottom corner, took it well during a bit of a mess in the area.

Football's definitely skyrocketed price-wise, regardless of who can still/now afford it. When you look at some season ticket prices in the top division it's obscene. Is it Germany where it's still relatively sensible?

I'd hope so, but this thread alone has people wary of bringing kids along. They may be overly cautious and are actually in no danger whatsoever, but the threat is obviously still felt by some. That's fair enough, but when normal fans do get affected it becomes mindless thuggery. I'll happily...

Ho ho ho. So as someone who's clearly ignorant and uneducated, what am I missing when I condemn running battles on Earlsdon high street in front of families, or the fact that people are wary of bringing their children to a game for fear of being caught up in trouble? Genuine question, this...

The solution would still be part of the problem.

Circular logic. If the element being slagged off didn't exist, nobody would need rescuing. Well done to them for the loyalty and all that, but when people outside the circle are involuntarily involved it stops being admirable in any way, without exception. If hooligans wish to arrange meets and...

So what hidden depths or unknown truths are there that can make it not scummy to terrorise innocent families or involve people who have no part to play and no desire for trouble?

I won't believe we're doomed until it actually happens. This may of course end up a triumph of hope over experience. If someone believes we are, they're not suddenly failing to support the team or will automatically take some kind of 'told you so!' pleasure if it occurs.

You must get a hell of a calf workout jumping to these conclusions. So if these people (who don't seem to actually exist) know sod all, what of those absolving Thorn of all blame as if it's somehow impossible for both parties to have their faults? Another case of people here seeing just black...

You can think we're as good as relegated whilst still supporting the team, just like you can question the manager whilst still supporting him or the team. It's unfortunate how often people here simplify things as purely black and white, as if independent thought is a dirty word.

If these people want to get together with other like-minded souls and do whatever their thing is then I don't care, but the second they're causing trouble or harm to people in no way involved with the 'scene' or getting to the point where people will avoid taking their children to a public event...

'I felt so low like I wanted to end it all. As an act of contrition I embarked on a nationwide speaking tour with Keysy entitled SMASH IT' Don't buy it.

Of course, I'm not saying it shouldn't be taken seriously, no doubt. It's just depressing. I've helped you out, you can work off the frustration by caving in the head of a foreigner.

Is this going to be a load of fat sweaty chavs backing away from each other while daring the other to advance? Lordy.

That would be one of the worst ideas implemented in football.

It's nice that most people aren't being snide and bitter about a player who signed, fulfilled his contract to the best of his ability and then moved on to try and better himself further.

Has Platt himself said that he can't play that often? I know you've got people like Ledley King who physically can't, but Platt's not exactly a creaking old man and his game isn't exactly about dynamism and pace.