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I've always tried to work to the belief that the electorate are far more intelligent than they're given credit for. Sadly this result has made me question it, not because they believe in something different but because of the tactics they've been sucked in by and some of the reasoning I've heard...

Not sure it's turkeys voting for Xmas, but more voting for Thanksgiving as an alternative to Xmas. At least two of those get a pardon (although probably end up on someone's table each year - never see any follow up on how those pardoned birds are doing......)

I reckon we'd take £1m + 15%+ of further transfers + 250k appearance fees + 500k England cap. I'm not sure with McCallum if we should go more all out fee just in case - he's still got a lot of developing to do to make it at a high level IMO

Wind, solar, tidal...... These are improving and growing all the time, and we've barely started looking at how much we could increase their capacity. Every roof and wall is a potential solar energy plant. Every building a potential wind generator. Millions of acres of potential energy...

And when it was a lot hotter humans weren't here. The planet would survive. We could not evolve or adapt quickly enough to survive or at least have a massive percentage of our species die out. Think of it like your body fighting infection. It heats the body up to kill off the infection.

In terms of social policy we are. Economically we're quite far right. Over there a lot of people see Bernie Sanders as akin to Corbyn - over here he'd be centre-left.

Just ignore all the campaigning by Farage, Alexander and Gove then. And the fact that the Tories just won a landslide offering an 'oven-ready deal' in staunchly Labour areas when apparently they all want no deal. I agree that it should've be on 'no deal' but every bit of campaigning by Leave...

If that was the case why vote Tory who have an 'oven-ready deal' (or did until Alexander amended it without warning)? If what you're saying is true surely they don't want an oven-ready deal, they want no deal, in which case the 'red wall' would've voted for Brexit party.

Had you asked me at the start of the season would I take our position right now, esp given the St Andrews move and numerous key injuries of course I would. Even the style of play is often great to see and far above what you expect from this level even if it does go awry at times. We're so close...

I thought the WA was oven-ready and all the candidates had signed up to pass it. Now apparently it needs amending in a way that makes no-deal a distinct possibility again. Nice to see this was mentioned in all his repetitive Brexit stuff during the election..... I was hoping the large majority...

That is the point I'm making really.

Like Alexander refusing to vote for May's deal twice for no reason other than it didn't help his leadership ambitions....

I agree with you in principle but the job is looking after the people of this country. Ever head the adage "to judge a man first you must walk a mile in his shoes"? Pretty difficult when you spend you life looking down on those shoes as smelly and revolting and won't touch them, let alone put...

Wouldn't have thought you'd be suggesting people were thick for wanting to leave a union based on the fact someone has told them they'd have more control over their own country and would be better off despite all indicators pointing to the opposite? Seems like a sweeping generalisation to me.......

Would you have had momentum having so much influence under Blair/Brown? Or Blairites in charge during the Michael Foot/Neil Kinnock days? Things change. A massive election defeat is going to affect their influence given they're inextricably linked to it.

Deflection again. I never said this rail policy was a major issue they should be concerned with right now - they've got far bigger issues to overcome. I was merely adding my opinion to the subject as it was mentioned in this thread. You however have used this as a convenient way to avoid...

Yep, Labour need to concentrate on getting the power to put in their social reform rather than bang on about their social reform. Then push it through when they get power. Sadly it looks like getting that power will mean treating people as rather basic and unintelligent - get a catchy slogan...

From that I'm assuming you're trying to say they don't have cheaper rail tickets. But nice that from that entire post the only thing you can find to argue on is that sometimes the tickets aren't cheaper

Alexander isn't up to the task either but he's doing it. Jess Phillips main aim wouldn't be to be the voice of Britain on the world stage, it would be to get Labour back to where it was against the Tories and she's feisty and witty enough to take on Alexander. Plus she's perfect to get him to...

The truth is with our possession, style of play and chances we SHOULD have given someone a spanking by now, so the question becomes why HAVEN'T we? That can be down to two things. Firstly, the inability of strikers to finish guilt edged opportunities and why we have consistently brought in so...