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Yeah. I would say we would need about 25,000.

I would be a lot happier if we had owners that cared about the club a bit more. Sisu clearly have only their own interests at heart. I'm not saying Hoffman, but someone who has love for the club would be helpful for sure.

Yep, get all that and very valid. Personally, I would have liked to have seen a supporters club place built on the waste ground the other side of the train track at the Ricoh

Well you would have thought so wouldn't you. Was trying to gauge just how long people would be happy to stay in Birmingham.

Only hope is new owners for a new stadium I feel. I just cannot see Sisu ever doing it.

Yeah,I know it has flaws. HR had loads of flaws too, one being some of the views were really awful. I endured three seasons of having a pillar blocking out half the goal in the West End. And fans were always moaning about the atmosphere too. Constantly.

Okay, so can just I ask a general question to everyone on here. If and obviously this is just supposing, IF the only two options were playing at St. Andrews for the next 10-15 years, OR coming back to the Ricoh, what would you choose? Just wondering if people WOULD actually choose St. Andrews...

And I don't have a problem with that,but it is the positives of the situation whilst totally slagging off every aspect of the Ricoh I don't care for. There are a lot of people out there heartbroken we have left our city again and obviously the vast majority of City fans will not be attending...

There's been a few. Preston in the cup was great. I must say, this all makes me feel a little ill at ease, all this bigging up someone else's ground 20 miles away and totally dissing our home stadium for its terrible pitch, its soulless atmosphere, its concreteness, the surrounding area etc...

Fair points there. There's a lot in the mix, including the mysogany and you would think that most employers would sack the person concerned in any other job under the same circumstance.

Humbugs mid-game if it is boring and bumhugs when we score.

Now that IS what I call a long range weather forecast. The fixtures came out on the 26th April.

You do TV's and phones too these days then?

And HIS dad's

Yup.

Parris in Paris. Did Dublin ever play in Dublin?

Thus named because of all the plot holes in it.

I think it dated very quickly indeed. Within a year or so. God Only Knows stills sounds brilliant though and remains one of the best songs ever written.

Sounds just like me. City and England and nowt else.

And bah humbugs for all those who are refusing to go.