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Tell them they're silly if they pull that one on you. 99% of football discussion is subjective by definition, it should come with that as read

I think that was quite widely reported at the time and as the season went on. A different manager and we wouldn't have loaned some of the players we did.

The whole 'if you disagree with me about Bigi you don't know anything about football' isn't the best argument in the world.

That would be more of a factor for a permanent move whereas in this case wherever either club appears to be going, he'll be in Newcastle.

afan4life, u sho make some madthreads4real

Just like the saying 'Rome was built in a day'

Talk of refunds and Hitler after selling a player that went off the boil in the latter half of the season are a little bit mad.

All posts of this kind are, I don't think we need to state it every time though.

Germany are better now than they were in 2002. They didn't win the Euros this year but they are still the world champions and the 2002 side did well but didn't impress. Beckenbauer said that apart from Kahn they could put the whole squad in a bag and pull out a team at random.

That's bizarrely specific.

I reckon you can hear the loud cracks of all the knees jerking from space.

Say what you want about Adolf, but he wasn't selling defensive midfielders to the Allies just before a battle so if anything Joy's worse than a man who decimated a continent and saw millions dead You wouldn't catch him playing jungle music at 3 in the morning either

Hitler

Surprised by this. Vincelot was one of the players of the season for the first half but then in the second seemed to give the ball away too often and too dangerously. We're at least 3-4 first team players short of me being comfortable with this sale though.

I forgot about Stokes in the middle. I'd be quite happy to get another leftback and have Stokes move central as a permanent thing.

I've been to see NBA games and it does to a degree, but if the score stays competitive the last two minutes or so can be the most nerve-wracking tension possible as every millisecond is vital. If it wasn't financial suicide they should just make games last two minutes and it'd be the best...

You've missed out 'former' in the title, you sly tabloid fox.

I thought Moyes was in the bag for Sunderland.

I hear it was a straight choice between him or Andres Iniesta, and we know that this guy can do the business at Stoke on a rainy day.

Marc Over Mars