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Thanks, OSB. That's they key really isn't it? We don't generate a great deal anyway, so there's no real incentive going forward to offer us a better deal or more money. If anything they'll want to charge us more.

Not only that, Wasps have a bond to pay back and £2M a year in interest too, so they aren't likely to be handing over cash because they're being nice.

Maybe, but says something about confidentiality, doesn't it?

It was worse than that, the gate dropped 16K.

Did you miss the bit where Wasps don't want to give us anymore income?

Read Jan's post about Wasps, Ricoh and revenue on the SCG thread. There is no chance we are going to get a better deal. No chance of increased revenues. Without increased revenues then bargain basement players and selling of anyone decent who comes through the ranks. That is what our future...

A lot of that goes on though, isn't there, Tony?

So you'd rather your club be hamstrung with no chance of increasing revenue and progressing up the leagues? Fair enough, each to their own. Sent from my P9000 using Tapatalk

No one will ever match Hugh Johns. What a voice!

I remember those long (and I mean long) summer days in Hawkins Road.

Well, as I say. We'll agree to disagree.

Not sure what that's got to do with anything. Name one 32K stadium CCFC/CCC had been involved with before the Ricoh.

I have. Unfortunately, my Dad was born there.

That's the crux of it, of course. However, you and many others are stating it WON'T happen before the project has even got off the ground. I can imagine you, Otis and Tony in the pub..."here, have you heard about that bloke who's invented something called a telephone? He reckons people will...

Whereas the future is so bright at the Ricoh!

Absolutely. It is just something to gripe about. As I said earlier if there were plans for an out of town stadium the same people would just have different gripes. If it happens, it does. If not, then it won't simple really. Personally, hope it does. Could the making of us.

That's fine. We'll agree to disagree. Life's too short.

I think the crucial part is the lack of proof!

Well, of course not. Neither would any other club in the country. Not sure why we think ours should act any differently.

That's fair enough, Tony. Not going to argue with you.