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But this is corporate. It's not about 'loyal fans' - it's about businesses looking to entertain/impress stakeholders. It's a business proposition. If the club had a sponsor and another company would pay 3 times as much for the privilege, you can bet that the club would be looking to get rid of...

But you can find the price point the other way too. If you charge too much and not all the boxes sell, then next year you adjust the price down until you hit the sweet spot of being able to sell the boxes without having a waiting list. If charging the larger amount generates more income in the...

We need to win at least two and draw the others.

Would we have work permit issues like Rente?

Indeed they did, but for me the doubt still remains about our set up against the better teams. I still fear Southgate will alter the way we play to be more defensive to nullify the big teams rather than continuing to do what does so well and play on the front foot with confidence.

Nope. Let them moan and doubt. Let's get the right people we want in rather than just make a signing to shut a few people up. Even if we did make a signing it'd be two days before it'd be ""FFS Sign someone else! We need more players!"

Cos it's a pre-season training camp. It's about hard work and getting the players fit. They will want as few distractions and interruptions as possible to follow the programme they want the players to complete and there will be very little dead time in it.

So why hasn't he donated to the ST fund? Or is it cos he does a lot of work for charidee, mate, but he doesn't like to talk about it.

I heard it was because the contract had been printed out in black and white, not colour.

I'd much prefer to sign his brothers, twins Baz and Matty

But if he knows he'd be offered 25k-35k elsewhere and is willing to re-sign for us for less I think that would show great commitment.

I have considered that could be the case, but for that amount I'd suggest we meet it as a final offer and if he then rejects or stalls on signing we look to sell him.

I think they're talking about the increase from his current wage.

Don't they get a pretty sweet rental deal?

I think Cat A would be a bit high at that price too. But that's my feeling on what the club will be charging. Will be interesting to see what price match packages are too. They've only really been worthwhile for Cat A the last couple of years.

Assuming the categories are kept, I reckon £25, £30, £35.

If they sell then it's a decent strategy and would likely see the prices rise again the season after. If they don't then it's information for how much they may need to lower the following season's price. Although there is apparently a waiting list, it's quite possible a number of them will not...

I agree that it has been poorly communicated. I feel pretty sure that Doug had the intention of expanding the FZ with the original pricing, where there was a massive gap between junior prices there and elsewhere. When there was uproar about those prices and he dropped them, he probably did so...