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It's interesting, the referees I have spoken to have said Klopp on the pitch during a match is a nightmare. But one of the nicest managers there is once the game is over.

Agreed.

King has already stated he wants to bring in a director of football...

Agree with this and it's a shame this question wasn't able to be put to him, considering it was a well known rumour at the time. However, King did say he had been considering the matter for a few weeks or a while so does just about line up.

Isn't it as simple as sky specifically asking about Lampard... I'm sure if he was asked about MMJ applying he would say yes too don't worry 😉

Well done for avoiding the point. I have given you praise previously for getting things right, but you do come out with bollocks sometimes and it's always negative.

You are right you didn't say the word strike specifically. You said and I quote 'Refused to play' You said Dovin was injured, why didn't you say Sheaf was injured, if we trust both Carr and Sheaf he was touch and go all the way up to the game, so it wasn't a last minute decision.

Well that's a a bending of the words he said. He gave praise to Rhys Carr and Boateng but said that they needed an experienced tactician to oversee them. Dempster and Delaney on the other hand might be at risk.

Is this the same source that said that Sheaf was on strike?

Wasn't that thread by USSKYBLUE who you are now quoting... So it could be has more info on it

Thought Doug came across well, clearly no nonsense with the response to some of the questions. Interesting what he said about AV and MR but of course we need to hear the other side, that's his view which he is totally entitled to. But backs what many on here thought only a few weeks ago...

@Saddlebrains your source is taking a battering tonight.

I feel like the sacking of Robins means that the requirements are very high for whoever comes in. Even if we have left ourselves with a lot to do this year. It feels like next year we would have start with a bang.

Whilst I know there is a lot of anomisty online, as somebody who lives in the NE a lot of my colleagues are Sunderland fans and most actually have a very reasonable take on football. Had some nice texts actually saying we are a decent side, that it was a Game of two halves but we stood up...

Did we need another thread for this, along with the 5 others saying King got it wrong?

You mean like Robins did against Stoke, Oxford, Norwich etc?

We just have to get behind him and the team for the weekend or until an appointment is made.

What's the line though? When does poor form become too much? You can't let it go on forever. And 5/6 months of actual in season game time is arguable enough to turn it around. 7/8 wins in that period isn't enough for the investment into the team. I would have given Robins more time still...

I don't disagree with that. You can't guarantee success, but hopefully by having a better structure behind the team you aren't reliant on one man (Robins) to oversee success. But you end further behind if you don't adapt.

As mentioned though. There is only so long you can punch above your weight both in terms of transfers and league position. There are so many examples of clubs trying to do it, under SISU we would have regressed very quickly again even with Robins.