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A little thought experiment to start the new year! Imagine the player in red is Rudoni, attacking from left to right as we look at it. He heads the ball forwards and runs after it. Now think of Haji as an opposition defender. He steps across Rudi's path knocking him backwards and sending him to...

It's not even clear who Robbie was having a go at - two other people seem to think it was them 🤣 As you say, nuts whoever it was aimed at.

Scored freely in the French league, but would be too much of a gamble to get him up to speed in the Championship. It's a no from me.

It's gone way past when their player's head is knocked back by the collision 🤷‍♂️ Honestly, only the ref's opinion counts doesn't it, and I wish I'd never tried to show what his thinking must have been. Apparently the TV pundits agreed with the ref too, so I'll take that as a crumb of comfort...

Is that directed at me?

You can't impede a running player if the ball's not within playing distance FFS! This is the crux of it. I too hope this helps.

I agree that 45 minutes wastage is way too much, and some kind of clock system (used without problems in rugby) might be looked at to enforce actual playing time. It would be a big break from tradition, but it's hardly rocket science. Another thing that annoys the hell out of me is substituted...

Maybe give the ref a call then. The deluded fool probably had an illusion of a running player knocked backwards by someone stepping and turning into his path, resulting in a tangle of legs. Honestly, it's not important is it? Happy New Year and PUSB 🥳🥂

I agree with your previous statement that Haji moved across the defender. The stills (individually and as a sequence) simply prove that when he did that he was not running ahead as others have claimed, but stopping and turning around with the ball gone way past him.

As per the sequence in post #200, Haji stops and turns across the (running) defender's path. Is this a picture of Haji running ahead? The second contact would of course be a no-brainer pen if the ref hadn't seen the first from just a few yards away.

You can't see what I see, and vice versa. So perhaps we've both missed something 😂 Only the ref's view matters anyway, and he was in a very good position to see and "feel" both contacts as they happened.

Haji's turning around across the path of a running player, he's not "already in advance of him" in a foot race. If he was and the guy simply brought him down from behind it would be a stonewall pen. If the ref hadn't seen the first contact, which knocked their player backwards, he would...

This is getting silly now

You can honestly look at my screenshots in post #200 and not see even the possibility of an obstruction?

The Woolfenden one, which I didn't see in real time, is ridiculous. What stage was the game was at? I'd like to see far more of those given as pens.

👍 agree to disagree

I agree. It's like you said before, he moves "across" the defender.

Fair enough, and like I say on another day we might have got it. But there are an increasing number of different versions of this stonewall pen on here now.

At the point of the obstruction I'm talking about, he definitely isn't chasing the ball. Their player is running, Haji is turning. I agree with David O'Day that he "moves across the defender", but the point is you can't do that when the ball has gone past you. The obstruction isn't deliberate...