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Strange characters for sure but our short term prospects as a club are nothing but dire !

Except they protected us from nothing, The Chinese and US to an extent have roved around our markets at will and stole, cheated and copied our products and supplied us cheap throw away shit for years, destroying our manufacturing as they went. No protection there at all .

Because they have closed ranks and made it almost impossible to Leave on decent terms ?

Fucksake, we merging......the Cov/Small Heath Alliance ?!

If those sorts of things were in place then I doubt we would be stuck in this mess because migration would be under control, our welfare state and NHS protected from people who don't contribute enough. The money sent to the EU should have been justified better, a programme of explanation and...

I think if we did have a GE soon we would have an 8 way split with Bre, Tories, Lab ,Green and LD's all grabbing a fair share of the vote for different reasons with the SNP and the Irish making up the numbers. Not sure how that would solve the EU issue. Can't they just half our contributions and...

You have to be a little bit generalistic as it's what the voting maps show at the end of these elections anyway. Of course there are exceptions to all of those ideas.

There will no doubt now be another sustained campaign by all the mainstream media, Remain politicians past and present, leading establishment figures in and around London, the legal profession, Foreign born people living in the UK or people with foreign born spouses, the governor of the Bank of...

Well firstly there really should have been more protectionism against particularly the Chinese, they have stolen, copied and cheated their way to robbing a lot of people of decent employment. I agree with most of your post though.

No one has ever shown me an unbiased report on the true economic effects of mass migration. Most I've read suggest that the tax receipt benefit is outweighed by the strain on services and infrastructure, NHS, Schools, roads, environment, crime and security. Again I don't blame individuals but...

Because Brexit will be the first step in managing to control migration, in time that SHOULD{ but that's debateable} lead to a control of all migration. Migration is important and necessary but has to be controlled and targeted to ensure that the UK isn't just being sought after as a quick route...

I don't completely agree but even siding with your point then specifically recruit for the NHS then, why the ridiculous open door policies of present ?!...........Oh yes.......it was thought by Blair and Co that all new arrivals would vote Labour on a political note..........and economically the...

I didn't actually vote Mart, circumstances and disillusion meant I skipped it ! I'm just musing as why people are voting like they are.

What you describe there is pretty much in place. Disenfranchised millions, fed up working full time for a wage that barely covers the high cost of living, whilst they see EU migrants pouring in forcing down wages with their sheer numbers and the nation spunking away billions to the EU when Nanna...

Ultimately what has caused all this unrest across Europe is the transfer of millions of traditional manufacturing jobs to the Far East. This has left many areas feeling abandoned and a lot poorer, whereas successive governments have failed to re distribute wealth and new industries to...

This isn't just about economics, there are many facets to this revolt, it's Europe wide against mainstream establishment political parties.

That ' woman ' would have been losing Labour votes by the second, the stupid arrogant fool. Yet again telling a huge part of the electorate they don't know what they are voting for .

Those over 60's are in a better position to guage the pros and cons of 40 years in the EU than a bunch of non political kids......and they really couldn't give a shit, lets be honest, just look at the demographics of who voted in recent elections.

FFS the spin on here, look at the map, speaking very plainly the great majority of the nation in area terms voted for Brexit, the ' Remain ' vote again came from ' We want out Scotland ' and the ' Foreign vote' in and around the big cities, plus a few we are doing very nicely types in the...

The arrogant tossers on the EU negotiating side have obviously wound up a lot of people. They need to stop pushing to change the UK decision and sort out either a fair deal or prepare for a mutually disruptive no deal.