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  1. Astute

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes I did but you twisted what I said as usual
  2. Astute

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So it works both ways when someone else says it but when I say it there is only one way it will go. This yet again tells me everything I need to know.
  3. Astute

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Best news I have had for ages.
  4. Astute

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yeah OK.
  5. Astute

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Got your next twisting of what someone has said ready again you mean?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Of course it is a problem. A problem many try to make out doesn't exist.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Can you work it out for yourself or don't you want to understand? Japan has tariffs removed fr8m what they sell to EU countries. This means they don't have to make cars in the EU. So they pull many thousands of jobs out of the EU countries. The UK like you say would be going the other...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Labour would have a much better chance with someone else leading the party.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Are you saying that Corbyn is the person to take Labour forward or are you just waiting for a chance to twist my words as usual?
  10. Astute

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You said initially all the noise was leave? When did you say 'initially'?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    If tariffs are introduced manufacturing will return to the UK. Look at Japan. They get a trade deal with the EU then start pulling manufacturing out of Europe.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    And vote for who? Remain has one chance. The Lib Dems. But they jumped into bed with the Tories. Labour? No chance while Corbyn is in charge. Saying that he was defended to the hilt for the last few years. But reality has finally hit home.
  13. Astute

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    You both make out the noise for leave is massive yet make out the noise for remain is much lower. Yet the opposite is the truth.
  14. Astute

    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    So I am not allowed to mention what you quote?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    And then what? The Tories would need a majority to push anything through. Easy? Think again. They would need a majority that want to leave. And I don't think they would get it. The majority of politicians want to remain. And enough feel strongly enough to go against party policy. The Tories...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Did he? All the noise is supposed to be from leave. It isn't. So he kind of mentioned politically. Which is normal for this thread. Kind of say things that look like one thing but can be changed if challenged. So where is all the noise for leave then?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Are you saying that in parliament most noise is made on behalf of leave?
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    Yes this thread is irrelevant. But it hasn't stopped some from hitting hard with their agenda even if it meant constantly twisting the truth at best and insulting others when caught out. Just like elsewhere. And it is all irrelevant. It won't change anything. If it would have a chance of...
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    This made me laugh. It is people like yourself who says that it is the direction we will be going in. You are not a leaver.
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    The EU: In, out, shake it all about....

    All the rest is down to guesswork. This part is totally wrong. Those who want to leave have been much quieter than those who want to stay. But it will change if it looks like we are not leaving or will be remaining by default. Look at this thread. Honestly tell me where nearly all the noise...
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