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  1. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    Don't think so. If you want to find where I did?
  2. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    You're entitled to your opinion. That is not a fair summary of my views so I'm wasting my time. I have never said child neglect is not against the law. I have said defining it and making a case to prove it is very difficult. You are unable or unwilling to grasp the nuance of my points so let's...
  3. oakey

    How do you bet?

    I have never done a real bet ever. It does not appeal to me. I have been to a casino a couple of times and that was ok. However, I am still waiting for the Villa fan to pay me £10 when we had a bet on Villa going down last season.
  4. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    It would depend on the circumstances. How many children are injured or die when not wearing a seatbelt? Should parents be prosecuted for that? It's what police, crown prosecution service and courts are there for to judge the circumstances. My instinct is to be merciful and I think prison is for...
  5. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    We will just have to agree to differ. This is my last word ... A foolish and stupid mistake was made by possibly foolish and neglectful people. Nothing can be gained from prosecuting them. Their punishment is a lifetime of bitter anguish. You would like that to be spent in a cell. I beg to differ.
  6. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    They were in the garden, as it happens. The restaurant was 50 yards from their room in the garden of the exclusive holiday village. Let's just leave it. We are not going to agree.
  7. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    A court would not look just at the outcome but whether the action was reasonable before not after the event. There would be a huge argument between 2 sets of lawyers about the reasonableness of the action. That's if it made it to court. Do you recall the dingo took the baby case? No good came of...
  8. oakey

    retro scoreboard stays!

    Not very democratic, a Twitter survey! So about 20 kids voted then? :claping hands:
  9. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    There's no comparison since that is clearly a crime committed, manslaughter. I ask again. What would be gained from a prosecution? Do you not think they have suffered? Why would you want them to suffer some more? Revenge? Spite? It certainly won't prevent further cases like this. No parent will...
  10. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    It would be difficult to prove that they put the children at significant risk of harm since they were only 50 metres away in a secure holiday village, were checking on them every 30 minutes and believed they were safe. My question hasn't been answered yet. What would be gained? You clearly want...
  11. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    Child neglect has to be interpreted in law. A case has to be argued. It is not an easy case to prove. You havent addressed my question What would be the point?
  12. oakey

    Things you like and dislike about your missus

    When women moan in this way they are not looking for solutions and they get annoyed when you offer solutions. They are not stupid they have already thought of most of these and rejected them. They have already decided there is no solution and that stinks. They want you to confirm this and...
  13. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    We all agree it is child neglect. They did not break a law in that or this country, as far as I know. I don't think they would have been prosecuted in the UK as the circumstances did not break any law and I think the police would simply not press any charges. To suggest they left this country...
  14. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    1)When we hear of a child being harmed we all panic and fear it could happen to us. 2)Then we persuade ourselves that it could never happen to us because we are good parents. I wouldn't have done X, y or z. 3) Next we must satisfy ourselves that the parents of the victim were bad parents. Not...
  15. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    As I understand it the case would hinge on whether there was "significant risk of harm" in UK. Do you know what the law in Portugal was in the relevant year?
  16. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    No idea and I can't see the relevance as nobody is arguing that they aren't guilty of a lack of care. Whether it amounts to a crime is what is relevant and whether they caused a crime is relevant. I think probably their action wasn't a crime and their action didn't cause​ a crime. It was at...
  17. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    In any case the analogy concerned causation not the nature of the duty of care.
  18. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    In law the principle of injury or damage is the same.
  19. oakey

    'I judge children by their names'

    If a person leaves their car unlocked does that action cause it to be stolen? No, but they have been a contributory factor due to negligence. it isn't a crime to leave a car unlocked but it is a crime to steal an unlocked car
  20. oakey

    Brit awards

    Still out of the league of anyone on here :facepalm: :guitar2:
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