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Only unfit because of a couple of comments? The bloke is a total liability. The Tories have become a joke. The only reason they are ahead now is that there is nobody the public trusts. And none of them deserve our trust.

Off the top of your head what?

And this is where I don't get you defending the policies. House prices are vastly up. But as we saw they are about as affordable as they always were because of the lowest ever interest rates. But to help the younger generations in older life (yes their pensions got obliterated before they even...

Nothing to do with poor attendances when more support was expected?

All the name calling needs to stop. Then we can get down to that silly word 'debating'. Then maybe we could all learn something.

IIRC Labour is 25b a year borrowing. McDonnell wants to spend hundreds of billions. That is a lot of money to raise from extra tax. This is the big worry of mine. Brown did it last time with the pension obliteration. It has affected everyone with a pension. I'm hoping that there isn't another...

The idea is correct in principle. Just the normal way the Tories will push bullshit in their push for votes. But while they thought they were being clever they were not clever enough. 100 votes behind. 50 votes taken off them leaves them level and not ahead like they said. But taking 51 votes...

I proved it yesterday that you tried to make out it wasn't the fault of Brown. Look at one post of tours I brought up. 'Even if Brown did cause the damage to pensions' was the best admission I could ever get from you. But you then ended up with making out it was the fault of my generation for...

Never defended the EU :shifty::smuggrin:

That is one person who we all expect it from whatever the subject is. Sometimes right but frequently not. And it is mainly opinions which I say nothing about most of the time. So when was the last criticism that you agreed with? Keeping quiet isn't agreeing with it.

A Tory spending spree is a tax cut. Part of their offer will be to give what they should have done years ago. Pay freezes finished. Benefit freezes finished. This is what worries me if Labour get in and McDonnell going on a major spending spree. When the Tories get back in it would be time to...

Have you ignored the posts by BSB? That is what has got me going. He blamed my generation for the loss of final salary pensions. And if Brown is to blame in any way it is still the fault of my generation. It is also the fault of my generation that Bliar went to war on a lie. How come it isn't...

I criticise him. Are you telling me he is above criticism when all the others are not? If so just tell me to continue to criticise everyone but Corbyn. Or just point out where Boris gets defended like Corbyn does.

It was. And I agree. But you must admit a link to how many votes needed to turn a seat and being level isn't that much of a sin. Just thick fuckers that don't understand. Just adding 1 more would have changed it.

Who is defending the Tories? Shall we make a list of those of you that constantly defend Labour? Are you going to finally admit that Brown killed off final salary pensions when you just blame my generation for it? Just like you just blame my generation for Bliar going to war on a lie.

So level or one vote out is a Diane Abbott? :wideyed: Saying that those putting it together should have done better. But we know where we are when some make 1 vote out of many such a big deal.

Which is my worry. I am planning to use mine to secure the children we have taken to live in France their future. Am buying them a house each. Want them from under my feet when I retire ;) At least I will be tied to French tax once I live there.

Go on then. What is wrong. Explain in nice simple words. Sounds like you are implying that Brown didn't decimate pensions last time again. Or are you saying that Labour doesn't get defended constantly by the same people all the time?

1, Like I said I am happy to pay more. But not on my pension like last time. 2, The one I keep slating? I slate them all. But when I say anything against Labour I have you and others defending everything. Nobody tries to defend the other parties so there is never a disagreement that lasts all...

As you know it was pensions that got hammered so much last time Labour was in that it ended final salary pensions. That was a tax on the man on the street.