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Did you vote leave or remain? People voting leave wanted to leave. People voting remain wanted to remain. It was never going to be how we left. The EU has made it hard. Remainers have made it hard. Was any of this on the ballot paper?

The backstop was invented after the vote.

Remain in the EU=Find racism with the Tories. Leave the EU=Find racism in Labour. Racism isn't the point for most. It is part of finding a stick to beat with. But the point should be racism has no part in life. It should be stated how shit it is for all, but because of the bullshit going on...

Has anyone noticed what is going on? Racism for the man on the street has vastly improved. It is nowhere near as bad as it was when I was a kid. No Bernard Manning on prime time TV when you only had 3 channels. People finding racist jokes absolutely hilarious. Open racism allowed everywhere...

Do you wanna be in my gang? Oh yeah

Maybe it was a smart decision by Corbyn so that the Labour candidates can say whichever way that district wants Brexit to go.

Good to see that you do actually agree with me on the subject.

It has come to something when we talk about who is the least worse instead of who is the best person for the job.

Why is it the grown up thing to do? It has cost a lot of votes.

The problem is that it is what a lot of people want to hear.

So would he campaign for Ir against Brexit?

Yet again I agree. But all in one go? Look at the list I put up. Try and work out the cost. For gas and electricity I would just start up a company against the suppliers and undercut them. I would take a longer term outlook. Transport? Start with the trains. Don't renew contracts. Make it...

Labour costed it at 20 billion. The experts in the field costed it at near 40 billion. Do you need a link to it yet again?

But do they? Saying and believing are two different things. And it is the same on both sides of the fence

So Labour don't want to privatise transport?

I don't know anyone who believes a word he says. So maybe if he believes it he could be the only one who does.

But how about affordability? So free internet would cost nearly 40 billion plus hundreds of millions a year to run. 58 billion to the women pensioners hit by the age change. How many billions for the new homes that can't be built in the timescale? How much for gas, electric, water, transport...

Breaking news. The Tories have come out with bullshit :smuggrin:

That is what makes me laugh. It is OK for one to not answer questions but not the other one.

Ignoring what I say about the Tories and Boris again? I don't trust any of them. As you get older you will work out that they are as bad as each other. What is needed is a party that is somewhere in the middle of Labour and the Tories. Someone who doesn't overspend but also doesn't make the...