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  1. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    There are better questions - Approaching the CBS arena - You have already brought snacks & treats. - Someone is collecting for a foodbank - You notice you have a fiver spare. Do you (a) stick the fiver in the collection? (b) buy your child / grandchild an EXTRA treat?
  2. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    In those immediate incidents sympathy is required. Tories are quite good at sympathy so would probably assist. What they lack is empathy as they don't have the emotional intelligence to discern suffering that doesn't have an obvious cause. Just my opinion.
  3. oakey

    Things that annoy you

    Teachers know this, of course. When you have to cover job/college applications and get kids to fill forms / create CVs the number that dont know their address, phone number, even birthplace is shocking. Many "I need to check my phone / text my mum to find out." Others don't realise that their...
  4. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Wonder how long they'll wait until giving him a seat in the House of Lords?
  5. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Now Owen Paterson MP has resigned. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59167783
  6. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Look closely and you will see the Mail say "MPs" so they tar them all with the same brush. Mail and the Telegraph do this a lot. If they are criticising they say "MPs" or "Parliament" instead of "Tories" or "the government". This reinforces the public perception that, "They're all the same"...
  7. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Close this thread. We are no longer able to influence political decision making through discussion and debate. We have an increasingly corrupt elected dictatorship and a critical number of voters don't seem to have noticed or care. If you ever vote Tory again you are complicit.
  8. oakey

    Swansea (H) - Tuesday 2nd - 19:45

    Train could be tricky
  9. oakey

    Most successful ex player

    Bright - when he scores the winner in Champions league final 2024
  10. oakey

    The Queen

    The queen is the last bit of glue that binds Great Britain together. When she goes it's the end of empire, commonwealth, the union of 4 nations and probably the monarchy IMO. Many people holding back, awaiting her demise, out of the very great respect in which she is held by a majority. I dread...
  11. oakey

    Crowd trouble

    For those suggesting keeping away fans in just be aware that the car parks are still pretty full of cars queueing to leave and there are still hundreds of people around at 5.30 plus the roads and shopping centre are rammed until at least an hour post match. Unless coaches are placed outside the...
  12. oakey

    Atmosphere

    1. There were a few more masks in the first few games in the concourse. 2. Attendance is bigger now so concourse is more crowded 3. Cases have surged since then so IMO more caution is advisable not less. It is relevant since it may be linked to what is a carefree / 'I can do what I like and if...
  13. oakey

    Atmosphere

    Singers corner more interested in boozing, trolling Derby fans and going for a piss today. Looked across 5 minutes before half time and half the corner was empty so I assume the rest were in the concourse. Very unpleasant, rowdy atmosphere in the concourse before the game. Nobody wearing masks...
  14. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Care to name a non-Tory woman MP you like or at least respect? I'll wait.
  15. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Maybe "principled" is the wrong word. I mean she has strong political views and generally sticks to them even when it is unpopular. She is also willing to admit she got things wrong such as abstaining on the referendum vote when she now believes she should have voted against. I like leaders who...
  16. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Lisa Nandy has several points that will put off certain voters - Northern Lefty Principled - ie. Critical of own party Woman Remainer If she were Southern Righty Unprincipled - ie. Vote as instructed Man Leaver Then she'd be the next Tory leadership candidate
  17. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    You seriously think Labour should say, "sorry we neglected you and your towns" to Leave constituencies? Why on earth when it's not the case? You also think these voters should be a higher priority than Remain constituencies? I repeat 2/3 of Labour voters were Remain. I find it baffling that 52%...
  18. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    Absolutely, and I'm not trying to rerun the whole thing. Too late for that. But I am trying to explain how Labour got in a mess trying to keep their Leave voters onside instead of taking a clear stand against Brexit. It was difficult but by trying to placate everyone they pleased no-one. IMO...
  19. oakey

    Do you want to discuss boring politics?

    We'll have to disagree amicably then. The 'will of the people' is a nonsense phrase to me. We are all individuals and there is no fixed will or opinion. Such a notion is fascistic as it imagines a collective which doesn't exist. The people who got to vote didn't include British residents who...
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