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But it's possible that this season would have been different had last season ended differently. It doesn't matter if you think it wouldn't be, you still can't make a definitive statement about something hypothetical, which is what you did. You can only speculate.

I don't know how many more times I'm going to need to say this. These were just hypothetical examples (however unlikely) of possibilities had things turned out differently. I used them to make a point (not clearly enough, obviously). They weren't necessarily examples of things I thought would...

Same response as to the other two: That's not the point.

It's the same fantasy world you are making definitive statements on, so why not?

Tell me you didn't understand the post without typing, 'I didn't understand the post'. The variables would have been different had we reached the cup final. You therefore cannot make definitive statements on what would have happened if we had. Because we didn't.

How do you know? If we'd have reached the Cup final, that would have affected what followed. Circumstances would be different due to the different variables. We'd perhaps have attracted different players; maybe had a different coaching set-up. Maybe we'd be struggling in the league due to the...

The promoted teams just end up battered.

Not Keown. In a world overflowing with vapidity, he still stands out as vapid.

No.

Same. After all the hope and expectation of the pre-season, that has to be one of the most deflating results I can remember.

That's an awful lot of assumptions for one post.

Christ on a fucking bike. He took a better paid job. Get over it.

No-one's going to match the Championship contract that Collins has. So for him to agree to a move, he'd probably have to accept a large pay-cut.

Well, that's told me all I need to know.

Winner gets a piggy back from the loser. If it's a draw, they do the wheelbarrow, swapping with who's the barrow half way round. It'll add a bit of extra jeopardy to the game.

He's also a better manager than they'd deserve.

I mean, that's just a lie.

I don't think it should be downplayed how important O'Hare was to us staying in this division initially, and then kicking on to being an established side.

It's time to let it go.