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A friend of my mother finally got back from Japan yesterday. 2 layovers where they were checked etc. Walked through Heathrow no checks or even details collected for self-quarantining.

Problem is weak leadership/govt. Most other countries have told people what they have to do and backed it up with proper enforcement measures/deterrents. And people have accepted it in general. Aren't UK littering fines bigger than the virus-related fines? Tell someone it's a 300 or 3000 pound...

that's the fear :)

I wonder whether the Ricoh could be one of the neutral venues PL is looking at.

just international appearance money and bonuses isn't it? Men's club game bigger than women's in US. only 9 professional women's teams in US , average attendances around 5-6k mark

Bugsy could be a big miss.

All these measures require cooperation from a large majority of the population. None work in isolation but as part of package. Properly worn masks reduce the risk (but doesn't eliminate it) as does social distancing but there's nothing that guarantees 100% security once you're out of your home...

Wonder if this virus is a double-edged sword for the environmentalists. All these images of clean sky above previous heavy pollution area, clear oceans etc. Govts going to say things aren't that bad and we can clean things up relatively easily when it becomes essential.

Same Preston North end who are owned and financed by a billionaire tax exile? Pot kettle black springs to mind

Actually feel this is a govt scared of the people and unpopularity. Unwilling to make strong decisions that are unpopular. Even when they eventually get round to lockdowns etc. the enforcement is pitiful. Almost begging people to co-operate. You're just not going to get full cooperation so...

That's down to the individual. Can blame govts but at some point people got to take some responsibility - make the effort to use masks properly for example. Can we assume that rest of Europe don't rate WHO advice? UK govt has ignored most WHO advice in managing this situation - case finding...

Not sure why uk govt insists on bucking trends. Out of step with initial restrictions, now want to ignore face mask restrictions that most of the rest of Europe thinks are necessary.

Started mid 70s. Strongest memories are the night games. You could see the floodlights on, you could smell the boiled onions from the hotdog barrows from seemingly miles away and there's always that special hum from the crowd as you got closer that seems more pronounced for night games.

not really much to do with CCC anymore. Lease is paid up. wasps have milked their situation with the bond already so isn't much wriggle room.

Having been out of the UK so long there are so many TV series I've just never heard of. Quarantine "forcing"me to watch TV - something i don't normally do apart from Sport and documentaries. So just found Peter Kay's car share which is keeping me amused

Trump will spin it that his 30 odd claims/cases/complaints makes him a bigger man than Biden (and some rednecks will accept it) :)

Rewatched Life on Mars over the weekend. Still a good watch.

my problem with After Life was so much of the material was rehashes of his podcast material and other stuff he's done. Great story idea and the original bits were good.

cynic in me thinks some will revisit it as increase above usual numbers of deaths per annum. eg" well those with serious underlying conditions were going to die some time in 2020 anyway". With some countries recording that way already some will try to justify things by "dumbing down the...

Apparently not. My neighbour spent 12 years working in Munich hospitals and is touch with former colleagues. Generally the underlying condition is recorded as the cause of death there. (virus apparently seen as speeding up the process, not the cause). Also Germany not generally testing after...