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Can you try not to answer with a nonsense word salad next time? Why did you bring up Kier Starmer when it is the post office who acted as the prosecutor and not the CPS? It seems strange if you are as you say not trying to make a party political point.

Has anyone seen him play? The amount people mention him you'd think he was Baresi meets Maldini

Are you going to acknowledge that the CPS only dealt with 3 cases during Starmers time as DPP?

it's also meaningless who was DPP as the vast majority of cases in england and wales (all apart from 3) were private prosecutions so the CPS was not the prosecutor Scotland and NI have their own versions of the CPS

there were 3 convictions dealt with by the CPS in Stamers time as DPP so 3 cases out of 4 million dealt with during his time The vast majority of cases were private prosecutions brought without the use of the CPS

in the pre robins era it would of been better value on those weeks

Lingard? Nah, we want someone who adds to squad and not someone who would want it to be all about them.

you pay after the game don't you?

who is being defensive? You just accused 2 people of being involved when they were not also that private eye piece, it is a recentish article and for the life of me I can't see where it says they wrote about the widespread issue before CW did in 2009?

the vast majority of people aren't skulling 5 pints there

You are trying to make it party political I on the other hand am more than happy to praise former Tory MP and now Peer Lord Arbuthnot for his work in proving the issues existed and the supplier and the post office were covering them up.

you tell me as it is widely reported and accepted that first story on the subject was in 2009 Google doesn't seem to bring up anything either so please show us all where Private Eye publish claims that the system was causing issues so widespread?

5 pints? ok then

it would of been in the blair years but what does that actually matter? at that point in time no one outside maybe a few people at a computing company new of any issues this is why it took 5 years of digging for CW to get enough to actually be able to break a story on it

i was talking about you claiming Mandelson was scripting call centre replies but Harriet Harman said in 1998 that it may fail to achieve it objectives regarding the same benefits payment functions that Mandelson spoke about and she did this in her capacity as SoS for DWP. Once again these...

yeah 140 for a nice view/padded seat/a bit of food/few drinks is a lot

If anyone wants the none fantasy version of Peter Mandelson's involvement you just need to google the "mulgan note" It relates to a review in 1998 before the system was in place and related to a later dropped benefit payment function that wasn't in the rolled out software. Mandelson was by...

hahaha

yeah that is a worry people will do this do you get the 30 points for say a junior ticket as well?

Most of the major political cover ups started sometime after 2009 when Computer Weekly first reported that their were major bugs with the software. There would of been issues under the blair years but the real Post Office attempts to cover up and pass blame happened from around 2010 onwards...