Taylor - might be worth you looking at what Trusts at other clubs have done. Swansea is a fantastic example of what can be achieved. The Trust does need to make its aims clearer and this will be done as part of updating its legal constitution about which all members will be consulted. Why not...
Ian - ideas on how the Trust should respond to current situation always welcome
Deano - John Beech is a great speaker with an excellent knowledge of football finance. For anyone concerned with what's going on with ACL-SISU it should be good
Steve - absolutely!
For info - the next Sky Blue Trust meeting is on Monday 7 January 2013, 7.30pm, at The Squirrel (upstairs room), CV1 2GY. Guest speaker is award winning football writer and expert on football finance, John Beech.
Definitely don't want to sweep things under the carpet. OSB is a great example of a poster who provides excellent informed comments but what seems to have happened is a lot of people have become polarised between 'it's all ACL's fault' or 'it's all sisu's fault'. Discussion does then seem to be...
Agree with the sentiment entirely. Hartlepool away was the turning point for me and since then I've actually enjoyed watching city for the first time in ages. MK dons is going to be another great SBA trip. I'm also not sure how as city fans we've become divided between pro and anti acl/sisu...
Thanks for this, OSB. All really interesting stuff. I'm not a SISU fan but I'm also not entirely convinced by the argument that some people are making along the lines that 'ACL doesn't need CCFC, but CCFC needs the Ricoh' because your post shows how the current situation is far from...
Interesting point by samccov1987. I always thought the Ricoh was a goldmine in terms of concerts, conferences etc. One of the things I couldn't quite believe when it came to light earlier this year, was that ACL have never made a profit net of CCFC rent (although happy to be corrected if I'm...
Seems to be lots of different themes within this thread but in terms of an overall narrative how about – CCFC’s problems began with Richardson running up debts.This was compounded by CCFC selling Highfield Road without having purchased a new home. The club ended up having to rely on the Council...
We can all see what the problems are but what's the solution - or at least what steps can be taken to try to move things in a more positive direction (in relation to CCFC not meat that is)?
We could do with a factual account of ccfc/sisu finances! My understanding, which may well be wrong, is the only debt (apart from the rent which I think someone earlier said is a game of who blinks first) is £43/47m owed within the sisu set up which means sisu have a strong motive to avoid...
CJp - enjoy reading your posts and am wondering if you maybe have some financial expertise behind your insights? When you say something like 'someone will have enough money to buy it [the club]' my response is to ask how much money would it take? Are we all just guessing or does anyone have...
psgm1 - £1200 is money from membership fees used to cover running costs. It's nothing to do with any finance that would be required to buy a stake in CCFC. CCFC and Pompey are not the same but there are lessons we can learn from them. We can also learn from other Trusts e.g. it was the Swans...
psgm1 - Key thing is Trust is working towards developing a plan that is realistic for current CCFC position. It certainly ain't easy. What encourages me is some of the general lessons we can learn from other Trusts (every Trust's situation seems to be a bit different and ours certainly is). One...
Sincere apologies! Absolutely no intention to impersonate/mislead. My user name for sbt has been changed but I've also been posting on GMK as HH - is that a problem?
CJ, the Trust is a democratic organisation so any member can attend an open meeting, put forward an idea and if necessary it can be voted on. The Board members were elected in July and minutes of Board meetings are posted on the website. If people can't make a meeting they are very welcome to...
Cheers, CJ. When we say ideas are welcome it's not a ploy to deflect discussion - it's entirely genuine. I like the Tesco idea. If ever you want to raise anything direct feel free to email [email protected]