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  1. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Whatever you think of Wasps they’ve somehow managed to get bidders to the table for the arena. Still confident that this is an opportunity for CCFC rather than a problem. Whoever owns the arena won’t be as cash strapped as Wasps and would be crazy not to link the club and stadium.
  2. The Philosopher

    Mike Ashley

    With Ashley: We’ll have linked ownership of stadium/club/training ground. He might bring in a director of football. Might be Dennis Wise. Who knows? He’ll probably rebrand the arena at some point and put a Sports Direct shop in the arena. (Personally prefer CBS as the name) Cov City shirts...
  3. The Philosopher

    Safe Standing

    Just remove the seats that spell out “Wasps”. Stand there.
  4. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I agree. If ACL is sold the Lease continues - who owns ACL is highly unlikely to be any concern of CCC (unless there are specific clauses in the lease) Administration is the next stage but opens issues wider in terms of responsibility. Liquidation might be a game changer.
  5. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I can only guess as a catchback in the case that there is a liquidation at the last minute. Perhaps the Council have agreed they would assume safety (or whatever) responsibility if ACL fails at 18.00 or something tomorrow.
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    So if the investors were to get 51% of this vampire company, will they be the main STAKEholder? (Halloween themed pun) Gets coat.
  7. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    The best offer isn’t necessarily the highest offer, this is where SISU have cards to play. A high offer but hostile SISU may not be better than a tamed SISU and lower offer. That 10 year lease might well have been good foresight.
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    You can only guess that the people who can enforce admin (charge holders or debenture holders) have resolved in writing not to do so tomorrow.
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I think the NOI gives protection to stop creditors putting ACL into admin. IE they can’t during those 10 days. Now there is no protection but also no reason for any creditor to fire the trigger if there is a solvent resolution on the table.
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Yes and no. Always the risk of them having conflicts about which act where, which conference where, at the moment they are kind of rivals. Could get messy.
  11. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    That makes sense, but it’s security. If the stadium lease sale exceeds the bond and other creditors (ie the P share money isn’t needed to cover the guarantee), the Wasp P share goes to the Wasps in Admin (and gets swallowed up by HMRC etc) I just thought that they’d try to rope it in to ACL by...
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Probably the announcement tomorrow. I guess if the NOI expires then main creditors can technically pounce. In this case, if there is viable proposal that can be presented to the Trustees of the bonds, Compass etc. that shows serious progress and a potential solvent sale then why would they...
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Must be an extension then.
  14. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I read it like you did, which is why I thought somehow whoever gets the stadium might want both Wasps and CCFC because P share etc. Bottom line: haven’t the foggiest
  15. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Don’t know what I’d prefer, new Americans or Ashley. I think the latter, just because, last Americans, SISU, and they’d still be here.
  16. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Kind of related: Link to the forum of The Wasp Bondholders. They may get some inside Intel as things progress. https://uk.advfn.com/stock-market/london/wasps-22-WAS1/share-chat
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    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    It is plausible. As said, SISU have the ability to influence the Arena sale be it with court action or moving away if they aren’t part of the deal. That they’ve got a patsy to facilitate makes sense, the 49% thing is the only bit I can’t fathom. However, it is a very plausible outcome...
  18. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I read that. Perfect fit for SISU / Wasps.
  19. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    That the investors get 51% is interesting. That gives them ultimate control obviously.
  20. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Ties in with what Overson apparently said in the car park to someone on here
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