1. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    It’s different levels. Ashley has probably had a white shoe firm strategising and preparing. Dawkins a “day late and a dollar shy”. Not sure he’s assembled the right team to get in at the big table. SISU still quiet. They are either playing very smart, have been caught flat footed or haven’t...
  2. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Whilst ever they are tenants and paying on time they would under normal circumstances have certain protections. I think that they’ve done the right thing in sitting tight.
  3. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    The administrator can only work with funds that ACL has. MA cannot control ACL until or if sometime he buys it. For now, ACL has to plough furrows on its own and the exclusivity fee would be partly used to go down these legal routes. It would be legally improper for MA to be paying ACL Legal...
  4. The Philosopher

    Most important signing in Robins

    They could factor it and cash it out probably, credit insurance and finance cost might be a bit but in any case, the workings of football finance would find a path (although that’s not the big picture). It’s about saying: “we’ve got a squad worth (CBA to argue) £45m now, so pay us on the basis...
  5. The Philosopher

    Most important signing in Robins

    100% this. Vik alone now means that the squad / club has a value at which SISU can possibly afford to sell at and balance their books. Without that I genuinely think we’ll be stuck with them.
  6. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Sorry, I wasn’t clear there - I’d missed the context maybe. I was referring to a backer on buying the Arena with / for / SISU / CCFC. However, it’s not impossible and to build a company within a company group and park tranches of liability. Commercial warrantees indemnifying investors against...
  7. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    We’re into the really hypothetical zone now: If investor had some kind of security (not like the dodgy Bond type) over the stadium in a non-group newco which held the lease and charged rent then it’s possible to isolate I guess.
  8. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    It’s a fair musing. Any asset with potential decent resale value and reliable income streams can usually be financed. I’m fairly sure they can move / raise money even though atm financial products are all up in the air. Short answer: SISU could find the money / a backer / partner on this I’m...
  9. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    It’s bad news when you Google SISU and some wag has linked it to a funeral parlour in Mayfair with like 1 star reviews. Surprised they haven’t rebranded (or maybe they have, left a shell, and trade on with a better brand elsewith)
  10. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Absolutely, but they’ve got their neck on the line with CCFC already - getting the stadium, revaluing and then selling the lot could be a short game.
  11. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I partly agree. Could SISU not just cash out some on their investments in other funds to invest in the CBS and show as an alternative revenue source (particularly) if they revalue? “SISU broke” is an easy assumption. It’s not what they themselves are worth, it’s what they have accessible and...
  12. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    ? Show me where I’ve ever accused him of working for either CCC/ SISU / Wasps? IIRC someone else inferred that he’d previously praised the Wasps finance model. Things change with time, it may have looked fine at the time, clearly events have transpired. The question was, did anyone invest at...
  13. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Let’s not forget this. That Boddy did some waffling after we should give due weight to. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/hedge-fund-puts-coventry-city-in-play-xx95tnrwj
  14. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I think it was more a contra against rents due. (Did I read that somewhere?). CCFC had to get rent up to date and park their contra to get the games on.
  15. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Good post. Particularly the point that SISU were beaten to the punch. The exclusivity move seems to have stolen the march which has paved the way for the golden rule in litigation: Whoever has the deepest pockets usually wins.
  16. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    I think that many Bondholders invested because it looked a secure investment. It appears to be borderline miss-selling but I can’t see the precedent of how that could stick.
  17. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    There’s all kinds of Twists and Turns that can happen. That SISU is silent is interesting. They only have to throw some kind of legal grenade in on Thursday to put the Trustees and Administrator in a tight spot. The backfire is that if it fails it creates animosity between SISU & MA. Not good...
  18. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Did he not originally praise the Wasp finance model? Impossible to assume noclients invested and he’s acting on a professional capacity? Are you him? If not why answer?
  19. The Philosopher

    Wasps going into admin & the impact on CCFC

    Did OSB or his clients invest any money? There’s a poster “PUSB” (I mean…) that’s on the Wasp Bond forum with a similar style and syntax. If so, be interesting to hear the thoughts of someone with skin in the game.