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Exactly. I’m hoping they’re just caught in a ‘not wanting to over promise’ mindset after what happened at Christmas

Thanks Faz, I was trying to lift the spirits on here !!! I was discussing this with my mate last night though. There’s loads of dates being thrown around (May/June) but none of us know what the numbers will look like in three weeks let alone three or four months. Surely if case numbers reduce...

Scary. However whilst we all want the total number of patients in ITU/ICU to reduce, we actually (bizarrely) want that percentage to increase over the short term as it should indicate that the vaccine is working in older age groups

Thats not what it reflects though Pete. There are still large numbers of hospital admissions on a daily basis (2k-3k per day in England and during that period probably around 35k new admissions in total). The net number is finally starting to reduce though. Whilst the numbers dying have been/are...

Vaccinations at 480k+, case numbers down to 23k here’s the interesting one for the data geeks (and hopefully tied into vaccination programme). On 18/1 there was 34.5k Covid patients in English hospitals, today 28.5k. That’s a decent drop and hopefully reflects the vaccine roll out (even though...

Their right wingers handy to be fair. Agree though, dirty ! Played well after Blues scored.

No panic mate, Williamson’s all over it 😊 Seriously though, they have said 8 March earliest and I’d imagine that will be driven by rates (as well as vacs). Could possibly differ by region and also even possibly what variant is prominent (and whether it’s more transmissible in kids) Plenty of...

. 100% agree. Medium term this has got to be an international effort. That’s why I mentioned the global vaccine distributions fund (Covax) - we contributed £500m, one of the most, if not the most of any country (well it was at the time)...

I don’t doubt we will do our bit. The question will be when and how When - it might sound selfish but we’ve got to get our population safe(r) first. How - this is the tricky bit, who do we release any spares to ? Our nearest neighbours or developing countries that can’t afford their own supply...

100%. I was responding to DODs reply asking what we could do in response anyway, so was more hypothesising. Should’ve used the word possibly not probably. Who knows though and as I say hopefully it would never come to that. Ps might also depend on impact to our roll out strategy, if it’s not...

Not sure there is much we can do but you would expect some strongly worded statements around breach of trust etc, probably legal action against Pfizer (assuming they blocked Pfizer export) and/or EU (not sure of the international law/how it impacts trade agreement so don’t quote me though) and...

Exactly what I was thinking Clint. No need to get drawn into it all unless there is an actual export ban.

Yeah, just heard. was going to send a longer response but this emoji probably sums it up as well 🤦‍♂️

Just googled. WTF !!! Nobody has said it’s ineffective previously, just not enough data (even EMA said protection is expected). Germany and Frances response is unusual to say the least, either they know something we don’t or there are other things at play here From Politico. PARIS — French...

Really, I’d not seen that.

Hopefully unlikely. Wouldn’t put it past macron if he’s under pressure

People definitely playing the game this time (not going to point fingers as it can’t be easy for anyone). The key workers list is ridiculous which is governments fault

Fair point Ian...boozers and gyms are shut though...two key components in my life 😊

Really hope alls ok mate. Fingers crossed

Im more concerned if they stop exports of Pfizer that again, other nations acquired ahead of them. This could unravel badly. Let’s just hope they see sense and don’t actually stop any vaccines being exported