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It just screams libertarian "think tank" doesn't it? Haven't watched it at all so might end up eating my words!

My thoughts exactly. Certainly seem like two sides of the same coin.

Really strange. He's arguing over the semantics of lockdown because if he doesn't his condescending reply to my original post has no merit. The ridiculous thing is I didn't even use the term "lockdown" I asked what social distancing measures might remain in place while opening the economy back...

There is no argument. I’m just trying to start a dialogue on how restrictions are eased and you’ve read things into my post that weren’t there.

Apparently there's "no chance" measures will last that long so get your flights booked mate.

You're playing with semantics. Regardless of lockdown/social distancing definitions some measures will have to be kept in place to keep Ro at or below one. Yes, test and trace will help but we're never going to do that as effectively as China so some restrictions are likely to remain in place...

Yeah the lack of clear cut guidance is remarkable. I wonder how much the drop in transmission rate is down the voluntary stuff? People keep asking me why I am still going to work. As you say though nothing to say most people can't. Government might have made a rod for their own back here as at...

I made no suggestion the restrictions remain until there is a vaccine or that lockdown would continue for 18 months. I said social distancing might last all year (which is what has been mentioned) and questioned what that looks like while trying to get the economy going.

Yet McDonalds drive through closed.

Well yes but what does that look like? What is lifted or relaxed and what is kept in place to keep Ro at or below 1?

I don't think they are testing but many homes are seeing many more deaths than normal.

Which bit and what's your alternative?

Grendel must have a bad hangover. He's usually busy moving last nights goalposts or deflecting by now.

Now there is open talk of social distancing lasting all year and beyond it's going to be interesting to see what that actually means in practice while trying to get more of the economy going and how that will affect business decisions. If you run a restuarent you might be hoping you can open for...

I can't see any variations are going to be significant enough to explain the difference in death/population between Sweden and similar nations.

As I said they've had to implement fewer measures than some countries but may have to implement more in future to save their healthcare system getting overloaded. I'm not criticising them as such, just acknowledging that they have high death/population compared to the Scandinavian countries.

The libertarian "we need to open the economy as soon as possible, you don't understand that lockdown could do as much damage as the disease" types mainly. As if nobody is noticing they are not at work or the constant barrage of forecast on the economic damage.

Some of the praise of Sweden is a bit misleading. They are still experiencing growth in cases and growth in deaths. The nature of their demographics, high proportion of people live alone, pop density etc seems to have just meant they had to implement fewer measures compared to some other...

Yes a lot of evidence saying you're higher risk being a smoker. I think our authorities were saying you were 14 times more likely to die if you were a smoker. There seems to be a lot of confusion around this. I am wondering if a lot of the smokers with poor health in the most vulnerable age...

Why is the alternative to not taking action locking up children? Clearly they would have just restricted people going on holiday. You fucking maniac.