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And I don't think our centre halves do look particularly lost. I don't think they're out strongest partnership, but I don't think they're the problem, either.

Doyle was excellent today.

We've had a series of good loan centre backs since getting back in the Championship. In fact, the only one who wasn't a success was Panzo.

Thomas had a bad start. Binks has been decent. I would play them though. Thomas is our best defender, and Kitching is good at passing through the lines, which we don't have at all at the moment. Puts us on the front foot.

Yes, first half, though not brilliant, we were the better team and should have been ahead. Second, they made a couple of tweaks, and whilst never being particularly threatening, nullified us completely, passed around us at will, got a lucky goal and then had a pretty easy win. We were...

From what I've seen so far, we aren't close to being a top half team. Three abysmal performances with a lucky point and a win against last year's League 1 play off winners. Amazing.

Absolutely fucking embarrassing. No composure or clue at all. Tactically inept.

It's feeble. Utterly, utterly feeble.

This is absolutely abysmal. This is nothing to do with not being able to land a quality midfielder in the window. It's just a shit team being completely outbattled by an average one.

Apart from on Question Time, of course.

That's kind of the point, though, isn't it.

I agree with this, to a point. However, the two away performances that we've had have been genuinely awful, and it's natural to be concerned by that.

It was essentially the same thing at Sheff Weds. One of our players defends themselves, but punished in the same way as the aggressor. I can take things like their goal; if you want things like that removed, you have to accept VAR, and then you get nonsense like in the Cup semi. Violent...

He does look like he's lost some confidence since coming back. The was a bit of his old form against Oxford, but that's been it, really; not today and not in the first game. But maybe that's to be expected, it was a hell of an injury to come back from.

Yes, there's that, but we were also outplayed for the bulk of the game, which is not down to the ref.

Referee utterly lost control of that. All the business after the goal was right in front of one of the officials. How the fuck did that no. 8 stay on the pitch? Completely unprovoked, he went for Wright, yet we get two yellows. Abysmal officiating. Simms is clearly a superior player to BTA, so...

Bristol City go down at every touch and we've been really poor aren't mutually exclusive standpoints. But I'm not arguing that that's been anything other than a completely gutless display and deserving of absolutely fuck all. Eccles and Torp don't look anywhere close to the standard.

MvE and Wright above the level of this division. The only one you can give a bit of criticism for was the second header that was way off target. They had absolutely no answer to him, and the coolness to finish the winner is the sign of a proper player. He's above the level of this division.

And what if the right players aren't available / don't want to join / join Nottingham Forest at the last minute? What are we supposed to do about that? Buy the wrong players for the sake of it?

One of the very best players I've seen play for the club. I know Sheffield Wednesday were very good when he played for them, but it's odd that he didn't play for one or more of Europe's top sides. Borrows would undoubtedly have won England caps if he had played for a more fashionable club...