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Do you know godiva I was trying to think cryptically what it could stand for. the closest I came to was maybe they spelt it wrong and it should have been opium because think some of them could be on it.

OSB. I follow you upto a point :D but then lose you :thinking about:but as you say and a lot of us know financially sisu are wizzes at tanglleing a financial web.

But no-one is expecting miracles from AT and your not getting sisu out unless they go. Results do not lie, performnces don't lie. Our league position does not lie. Lack of commitment, concentration and fitness of players this far into a season who can not hold on/last 90 mins, losing a game in...

Don't know gally just putting an idea out there not a conspiracy theory or anything just a theory but you could be right don't know.

Could otium have been set up with one intention and that is to buy out sisu when they sisu want out? Ken, onye, and whoever set up a company on the back of sisu, sisu will not deal with hoff or whoever but will deal with these businnessmen. So could otium have been set up ready for when sisu...

Sisu drop out otium take over and we are owned by ken and whoever is in charge of otium they have/are buying sisu out in a financial structured kind of way to suit both parties?

Well i'm not eastwood i llive in a bungalow and not a caravan so i'm not one.

He'll be waiting until bruce gets a new job.:thinking about:

Don't know how we are certainly down if we change manager, how does that work, unless your. A) A claivoyant. b) Have a time machine and have seen that nothing is going to change with a new manager. If thats the case were down and will be no further forward than we are now under sisu if we get a...

Where ever bruce ends up black will proberly go so I would be surpised if he is their manager for long

Did anyone watch that programme a few weeks ago about the welfare state and what they have done in america? off subject I know, regarding the strikes, but links to macca's thread. Personally have no idea what it's about so will not put my two pence worth in.

I'll agree to dis agree ashbyjan. As I am sure you as well as myself and others have been over this hundreds of times and will continue and I don't think 1 party will persuade the other party thats whats so great about opinions as long as they stay on a non attacking level. (would use a shake...

Ashbyjan With all due respect I did say other than buying players, as for turner he only played a few games last season and before that people were saying he's crap, dread when the ball goes near him etc. How do you know sisu gave contracts to deadwood players without AT's input, he must have...

Thing is if we get relegated these players we have now will not be able to cope with division 1 (hate that division 2 was better) although does not sound as bad saying division 1. There is no guarentee we will even get near the play offs if we go down and I fear we will just spend another 10...

Thing is NLHWC sisu have nothing to do with the playing side of the club as we are all aware they have not got a clue, other than funding for players. Someone advised on giving contract extensions to certain players who? I don't know but would guess AT. Why should he not take the blame for the...

I'll buy one macca I surrender, as long as there fire proof and certified as safe to wave without causing harm to someone else, got to be on top of health and safety.

But thorn is not a manager. So we just carry on accepting this? so why want sisu out (I do by the way) because we accept defeat, why protest against them? Why because we want a change, we want better for our club Why are people just accepting that thorn is doing the best job he can with what he...

Oh lets give up and change nothing get relegated then moan we got relegated. Sisu's fault they should have sacked Thorn. Lets hope we lose every game from now until the end of the season because were relegated anyway, if we lose every game uptil the end of the season at least we will be in the...

Fair point but then there is the other side of the coin with them strutting around thinking there superstars. I have no problem with what they earn it,s other things about them where they think there superstars, lack of commitment, also lack of respect some have shown towards fans and the club...

Thats a STICKY subject and TRIFLEy difficult to answer in the present situation, what with all the HUNDREDS AND THOUSANDS of opinons being put about on here, I would not want to slip up on a BANANNA SPLIT only to regret what I said later.:facepalm: