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How many do you think we will end up on by the end of the season?

Perhaps not, but its difficult to see where the points come from based in what we've seen so far. Our points per game so far would see us on 49 points - which would likely see us relegated. How many points do you think we will end up on, roughly?

Ref should yellow card every one of our players that tries to take 800 touches and amble round the centre circle like a pensioner trying to find his way to the pub toilet after pissing himself.

Equally as infuriating is the throw in situation. Can't remember who was taking it but there was absolutely no movement whatsoever and thought he was just going to throw to a derby player out of frustration.

I did think the pile on was a bit premature and unfortunately seems like I was right and the two game turnaround was more of an anomaly. There's still plenty of points to play for but it's going to be an uphill struggle with this team.

Casually waiting for the weekly "we go again" post.

Christ And we thought MR sounded downbeat recently...

Today was excellent, far and away the best performance of the season. Doesn't invalidate the concerns about how shit and unacceptable our season so far has been though.

Saw the first half of Luton- Sunderland last night. So much energy from both teams, so much good movement into space and ability to find the pass, turn and get a shot off quickly. Players that seem to understand their roles. The gulf between us and both of those teams is huge and I fear for us.

What does "turning it around" mean to you?

Oof

There was a couple bursts of speed last night and I thought he actually put the effort in, same as last game but the quality just isn't there.

It won't let me change it, but it should read 7-12th.

Think it's fair to say expectations are trailing off rapidly. There may be disagreement on what should happen with the manager but what about expectations for the season?. With a quarter of the season gone where do we think we will end up? I think around 16th.

Tbf the defence was shit before he got his hands on it, imagine how bad it will be in another 6 months..

I'm very critical of MR for a lot of reasons and said that he doesn't come across as knowing what needs fixing to get us out of this. However - I'm really not convinced that anything changes under a new manager. There is something fundamentally wrong with this group of players that I think the...

Can't see anything other than a hammering tbh. I think we'll get done 3-0 and that will be that.

This reminds me of the run we went on in 02/03 was it? Where we had something like 1 win in 26 games. Just can't see how we turn it round

Calm down judge Judy he just said that's what he thinks.

Thanks a lot - he's guaranteed at least a goal or assist now.