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That would suggest that the manager isn't actually that important in getting results

Well we should care if we want a decent England manager some day

What difference does that make?

I’m not sure I understand the hostility to Rooney. A lot of people seem desperate for him to fail. There’s a fair bit of it with Lampard as well. We should want English managers to do well. It’s embarrassing that an English manager has never won the PL

Yeah but we’re not as crap as we used to be!

With the exception of Crewe in the JPT, the only reason we used to bottle it in front of big crowds was because the only time we got big crowds was if we were playing someone good

Lot of people away at Christmas or get dragged along to god awful family get togethers. We’re not alone with this, as has already been said Derby v West Brom was also a sell out with empty seats. It’s more noticeable now as such a high percentage of the crowd are season ticket holders. The...

Same as every club these days. Attendance is tickets sold, not how many people are actually there

There were, but I think they still counted as sold. Freebies given out to people who couldn’t be bothered to turn up

Go on the Plymouth website and buy some, then just sit on your own away from their fans. They'll be plenty of room

The quality of the opposition is irrelevant when it comes to guts. You can play the best team in the world, get hammered, and still show guts. We were gutless against Leeds We were gutless against Portsmouth

Leeds away earlier in the season was horrific . We don't judge managers on individual games.

I agree. The only point I'm making is that there is no evidence that he is doing worse with these players than Robins was

It was 28k (a record for League 2 that stands to this day) It must've been fairly close to a home sell out as Accrington wouldn't have brought more than a few hundred

Strachan made Noel Whelan move in with him to sort him out. Not sure how Christine is going to react when Frank brings Kitching home

GK coach needs to go. If you got one of us on here, gave us years of decent professional GK coaching, then I’d be confident that all of us could’ve saved that first one yesterday

I’m not sure how to answer that. I thought Robins was got rid of too quickly. I suppose my argument back would be that these are Robins’ players

I’m not talking about them necessarily being decent people (although from the sounds of it some of them aren’t). But I mean the sort of player that has a winning mentality. The likes of Godden and Kelly were never Championship players. But they held their own in this division because they were...

Not this squad he didn’t

The ones behind the dugout? Looks like they were open but didn’t all sell. So maybe discount that game