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International break never helps, especially after a loss! Still too early, let's see at October break - circa 10 games gone, better indication.

Ridiculous we’ve ended up in this position - ridiculous

Agree. won’t happen now don’t think however.

Agree on above - this is where stats skew view. using your eyes, watched every game live this season - torp way off pace. Speed of thought, foot miles off. 1st half against Norwich and little cameo v Oxford was bit better. But long way to go.

Is sheaf fit though? And if he is, he’s has to start now. think wright and lats will be on bench.

Yep we’ve been asleep at the wheel on this, they knew palmer was a flight risk also as been agitation all summer. Also we’ve now made us more reliant on 1 bloody player than when we had Vik and Gus. reluctance to use loan/free transfer is baffling as stop gap. be interesting to be fly on wall...

Not happening this is it. Very disappointing. Would have perfect, even if sheaf is fit.

yep, mine were desperate to go to see PL team / was going to take them as treat. But not at that price. adult pricing fine, again, Kids pricing way off. Just no need.

We are out - £20 each for 5 and 8 year old. No issue with £30 ticket for me.

Thats the concern as the alternative to robins - be on grass this week/next for Watford.

Thats what he reported - a recurrence. Lets just hope he leads us out at Watford.

This. There was noise it was longer than "2 weeks" OR back for Watford as MR said. Robins said he hurt his toe or similar after game, turner reported ankle injury recurrence I fear we won't see him at Watford.

Big couple of days. im still not convinced sheaf is 2 weeks either.

Equal or better than sheaf last year....

He's just gone to Canada.

We have come a long way, (im not saying your positioning like this either) but thats been and gone.......it's perfectly fair for people to ask questions, poke, be disappointed with a result (clearly some people go OTT) but its been a massive let down after a summer with so much talk and promise...

Simms had 2 great chances - through on goal and a free header he badly mis timed. wright also created opportunity where he shot straight at Gunn. have to score one of those and it’s a different game.

Haji and Lati both have games on Wednesday night, so likely won’t be back until Friday - I think they both may be on bench. just pray sheaf is fit.

My concern with him before is end product, still the case. Caveat not sure he's had best players around him, see how goes with sheaf playing.

Now dust settled and I’m less emotional, 1st half was “ok” - however we had some very good chances - simms has to score one of his and wright maybe. Changes game then….. however the 2nd half was criminal - not helped with what felt like robins and all his coaches just trying anything without...