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    CCFC Ltd or Holding Company

    How do we know if we qualify as a smart arse or a ranter? Or have I just answered my own question? Good question though.
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    Council tossers

    I don't believe that. Nothing changed that day in terms of the club finances, and we muddled on for the two seasons that followed with no imminent risk of going under at any point during that time. No money changed hands, it was merely a commitment to construct a new venue for the club to play...
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    Council tossers

    Yes, it is.
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    Council tossers

    No they didn't. They saved the stadium project. Had they not done that, the club would have have simply continued to pay the housing company rent to play at Highfield Road, considerably less than what we paid in subsequent years to ACL. The developer would have sat on their investment until...
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    Council tossers

    Illegal? For someone who bleated on earlier about 'absolute proof' that is quite a bold statement. Institutions that without which our club would have ceased to exist? What are you on? The only reason the club are here is because this hedge fund you so despise saw fit to protect their...
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    Council tossers

    Take their pants down how? By paying them above market rates? At 150K per year net that still represented a good deal to ACL. Like I said in another thread, Doncaster council gave their local football club their stadium. Ours get insulted by a rent offer of 400K and try to then force the...
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    ACL start admin proceedings

    Perhaps. But let's just say they did do it, like you originally thought. So, SISU come in and buy us when we are on the brink, they pump in millions over the years that follow, up to 45m give or take, then go ahead and WRITE IT ALL OFF. That was your understanding, and yet you still think of...
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    Maybe?

    Proceeds from any such sales would go to the creditors, of which SISU is by far the biggest.
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    Council tossers

    He just explained it. The line that said "so if it was your business you would continued paying the pre agreed rent even if it meant your business ultimately fails?" said it all. The club couldn't afford it. The deal wasn't right. The club's 'demands' would have ultimately meant a net...
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    Council tossers

    Politicians love people like you. You'll buy any old line. ACL who for months have been jumping up and down like children saying "we want our money" over and over, have suddenly now made a move to protect the club from going bust? All out of the goodness of their little hearts. Absolute shit.
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    Council tossers

    No, it is spin of the worst kind.
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    Council tossers

    Err, agree to the terms? At 400K per year offered (not disputed by ACL BTW) in return for income amounting to 250K, we'd still be paying 150K per year which is still above market rates for a 3rd division club. It utterly amazes me how some people don't think that was a reasonable and fair offer.
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    ACL start admin proceedings

    No, that was a commitment going forward as I understand it, it is highly unlikely with things as they are that they actually went ahead and did it. If they did, then perhaps they really are as stupid as some say.
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    Council tossers

    You know as well as I do that the people that lose most from liquidation are SISU themselves, and any threat to do that was made out of desperation as they had been backed into a corner by the legal proceedings instigated by ACL. ACL could have taken a different course, but they chose not to...
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    Council tossers

    We deserve for our local elected representatives to force our club out of business? Lucky us! Forgive me, I wasn't thinking straight...
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    Council tossers

    Oh dear what? Which part of that is not factually correct?
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    Council tossers

    No they don't.
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    Council tossers

    That is the same hedge fund that has kept the club in business for years? The bastards.
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    ACL start admin proceedings

    You wouldn't, but you'd still need a lot of money to pay off SISU. Any administrator would be independent and would be duty bound to ensure a good deal for SISU as the largest creditor. No way they'd get all their money back, but they would get a serious chunk of it.
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    Can we now sympathise

    I don't think for one minute he knew what ACL were planning. An inkling things would get messy perhaps, but no more than that. Perhaps I'm wrong.
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