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I get all that. It's just all this 'self-respect' stuff that grates. People arguing that staying at home is the 'hard' option; for some perhaps, but for many staying at home and not going to games is what they have done for years. For them, it is the EASY option. Agree, we need a coherent...

Love how some think that sitting on their arse at home on matchdays constitutes 'saving the club'. It is apathy, pure and simple. Trying to dress it up as a 'moral' stance is self-indulgent guff. I have much more respect for people like simple_simon who actually try to do something (even if he...

SISU went after the council owned shares, it was opportunism. Taking up the Higgs option would have given them a 50% share in a company that would still have owed the bank £14 million. By paying a bit more and offering to pay off the mortgage they instead would have had 50% of a company that...

You're just guessing. You don't need to, there were only 2000 there, so why do you need to make things up? If you genuinely think there were only 300 more City fans in the main stand than there were Preston fans in the away end you're deluded. Also, City fans were singing throughout the game...

It was 50% of ACL - which 50% has not been made clear, but I suspect it was probably a buy out of the council owned stake which was valued at £14 million in effect. I'm not sure how they were trying to distress ACL - the bank were about for foreclose and they offered to settle the mortgage in...

Indeed. But it is amazing how many people are unaware of this, especially as it has been SISU's biggest gripe the whole time. It many respects, the dispute started then, and what we have seen since is SISU throw their toys so far out of the cot they are half way to Mars by now. SISU were...

Below are quotes from TF. Obviously, the fact he said it doesn't make it true, but he has repeated this many times and has been very specific. If it didn't happen like this, why have ACL and CCC never issued a denial? This what he said: "We made an incredibly generous offer. ACL’s bankers...

They offered that money, it was agreed to and signed by all parties. The council walked away, thus the 'option' to buy the Higgs share was denied them. What should they have done after that? Just interested to know what you would have done after having the rug pulled from under your feet like...

A bit like the headline agreement signed by the council and ACL agreeing to SISUs offer for a 50% stake in ACL? Oh, no, that wasn't a contract was it, so you can renege on them whenever you want. Forgive me. Sorry, couldn't resist.

To give you an idea, this is a comment from a Preston fan: "We were garbage, no idea how we've bagged 4. Would have had no complaints had we lost 4-0, Coventry are lethal on the break." We were outstanding at times today.

The 1st picture you posted was from the other side of goal - Wilson then ran round the back of the goal to celebrate and that's when that picture was taken. All a bit blurry though, was going mental at the time.

Oh come on, you know what I mean, I am referring to those that were there, not those who were not. You might reasonably ask where are the other 20,000 fans when we play in front of 10,000. I was just asked about my thoughts and observations about today and so I gave an honest response. I...

About edge of 18 yard box I'd say. Why out of interest?

Not trying to put any sort of spin on it - just making observations and was questioning a couple of things someone else said. Of course playing in front of 2000 people is appalling, the whole thing is appalling; and the fact you and I disagree about what we should be doing as supporters to put...

Who said it was packed? I though there were about 250-300 in there. Why is it relevant? The crowd was what it was - I fail to see how the distribution of those fans is of any importance.

Show a picture of the whole end and people can have a guess :facepalm: To debate that there were 1500 City in that ground today is a nonsense.

Behave. Preston fans sang, "we can SEE you on the hill". Stand behind the goal was lively and made plenty of noise IMO. Wasn't at the 1st game, but the guy next to me said there were a lot more behind the goal today than there were at the previous game. And, I got to the ground at 2.15pm and...

Why the hostility? He was being nice.