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This I can agree on. He's not got the personality to appeal to those who'll vote for Boris just because they find him funny and entertaining.

I think I've cracked it! Argument on here is that peole will vote for Tories because they expect them to be self-serving arseholes who think they're better than them. So Labour just come out and say 'yes, we're self serving arseholes too who think we're better than you so which do you want -...

It is. Just no-one is willing to utter the dirtiest word in politics.

Seems about right. Johnson having fuck all to do with something but somehow being given the credit. Can you not see the difference in perception. Stuff Labour has no control over (but Tories do) and people dont like- Labour's fault. Stuff Tories have no control over but people like - give them...

But...isn't that what Starmer was brought in to do? And he's moved them right and done even worse than the leftie-Corbyn? Plus he's had the 'Sir Kier Starmer - hardly a working man is he' when his background is very much middle class done good for himself through his own hard work and endeavour...

And if you asked a general member of the public how they'd expect the conversation to be on a football message board re: politics I bet most would say they'd expect it to be at least a bit to the right.

Boo! Should be 20.

Isn't it a bypass or relief road around a major urban conurbation?

James was on £35k and we seemingly stand a chance with him...

Why not give them the choice of a 12point deduction applied to next season or 6 point one for this?

You really don't want to hear what she did with some candles!

But... isn't that the supposed exact problem? Labour are too focused on the middle classes and not the working man?

Yet you extol the virtues of the people that have given you an effective pay decrease of one fifth during their time in office. And you wonder why some people are exasperated at trying to work out exactly what other parties are meant to do to stop people like you voting for the Tories.

Hard to disagree with that, even though I find it a sad indictment of where we find ourselves as a nation. Sod the policy, get in some generic slogans that people can interpret however they want and someone in charge you just can't take your eyes off. Having them involved in a scandal or two...

Best of luck for the future to him and hope he gets himself a club soon. Hope he can learn to make more of what he has in his armoury.

I'm sure it would. Almost everyone would thank him for his efforts and wish him all the best for the future regardless of if they felt he wasn't quite up to Championship standard. And anyone who came on just to have a go at him would be an utter dickhead.

So how do you intend to arrange the desks in the classroom then? Classic 4:4:2? 4:3:3, 3:5:2? Or you just gonna have 1 up front for the teachers pet/bad influence?

That campaign was from when labour were in govt.

Yes, but you've literally just criticised the opposite approach of 'vote for us for a brighter future' as nothing but a soundbite. Which is the Tory go-to. Remember 'Labour Isn't Working'? Exactly the same message of negativity in the current governing party - lapped up.

Not really. Tories set the budget so Labour at regional level will be hampered by that, as we've seen. Blamed for cutting services - had to because because Tories cut their funding. And given that the Tories are 'nicer' to Tory run councils than Labour ones it's just going to get worse isn't it?