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Yeah, I knew, but my missus didn't and she was shocked. Very brave of him to go through that all again on screen.

What happened? I don't follow the draft unfortunately. Just see who's got who after and know practically zero about college football

This fits in exactly with my stance. I think that's outside, but if it goes to VAR, I would be saying too close to call and no obvious error and go back to the on-field decision.

And McAllister, though he was forced to play kids that simply weren't up to it at times.

It doesn't look a pen to me, but if that went to VAR, I think it would have to go back to the on-field decision, as there is no obvious error. Looks fractionally outside, but it was still a very daft challenge.

The attempt was rather pathetic though don't you think and we can't be certain it would have been a red card. He could well have just whacked the ball as hard as he could, with an aim for the ball to end up in a goal kick, or going out to the side for a throw. As Oggy was a top keeper, I am...

Or at least, you might.

Not just night though is it.

Not so sure, Mucca. You smash it, it can go anywhere.

Having watched the highlights three times now, I think saying Collins "smashed it" is pushing it just a very small tad. 😂

Tis shocking. That's as wishy washy as you can get. Think he was just trying nick the ball off the player's foot, but that is still very poor

Found it.

I am trying to find the comment, but can't right now. It was on the BBC live match reporting thread. He said it was weak goalkeeping I believe and he should have put more effort into getting the ball and clearing it Wish I could find it, because I don't wish to misquote He was definitely...

We do need someone more commanding and forever shouting to defenders and organising the defence. I agree, although maybe not top priority, it is a priority.

Oggy was very critical of Collins for the 3rd goal. Put a lot of blame on his shoulders and he was a top goalkeeper for sure in his day wasn't he. Mainly Thomas, but Collins was definitely culpable too there.

Not talking about the goal itself. I was focusing on posters criticising him last night because he got up and then went back down again when the two players clashed. It came across as accusing him of all being a bit fake and it being pathetic. I just don't see that from that highlights reel...

Yep, it does. Having a commanding keeper behind you though can make all the difference.

We need a better keeper. Doesn't matter how many keepers you have if they are not good enough. I think a new keeper should be one of the priorities.

Yup. We have been really close this season and that's after an awful start and a number of new players taking an age to get going.

How many have been down to Collins? Quite a few I think. A good keeper can make all the difference in the world. As a defence, if you have a top keeper between the sticks behind you, it can create such a feeling of confidence. I saw the stats on Everton's defence. Right up there with the best...