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But then the entire chorus negates that by clearly stating numerous times "We'll Live and Die In These Towns". In doesn't say "We'll Live In These Towns But Die In A Nice Village Because Things Will Get Better"

Ok. So let's give young people, many of whom will have no knowledge whatsoever of how to invest, a lump sum of money. I think most of those people would require someone to manage that money and investments on their behalf to ensure it's invested wisely. But that's a lot of people who's money...

Now repeat that sentence, but change one word. Where it says 'pensioners', replace it with 'welfare claimants'. Would you still agree with the sentence? And if not, why not, given that pensions are a higher figure than welfare payouts?

So you're calling working class people an 'underclass' now are you...?

And if all countries did that then the only way asylum seekers could leave their own country is via going through their government. Only for many of them it's their own government that they need asylum and protection from. So what do that do? I guess they'd have to pay criminal gangs to smuggle...

They forgot to recalibrate the camera for his height and only took a picture of the top of his head accidentally.

All those wheels and still no f****** rectractable pitch!

Interesting. Personally I see Live and Die In These Towns as a statement saying you can have hope but the reality is you'll almost certainly die living the same existence you are now. Clinging on because all you've got left is hope, but chances are it's not going to actually get any better...

Sorry but that's nonsense. He's bad, but he's nowhere near Truss bad,

Well give that our tax receipts don't cover the services we provide, are they now not public services? Here's someone who's never talked shop with an accountant,

So do you ignore all the aspects like costs of policing/courts from crime which has led from things like homelessness and joblessness. Do we then ignore the health costs of those affected by such crime (such as robbery) potentially leaving the victim in need of emotional support and being unable...

So a person currently not working/paying tax but helps run programmes that help keep people off the street or out of gangs/crime - are they not contributing? Stop this ridiculous idea that the only measure of whether someone contributes or not is purely down to tax/welfare. Or even tangible...

So lets say that all housing benefit goes through the crime budget rather than the welfare budget as homelessness plays a significant part in crime due to things like drug abuse and vulnerable people ending up in crime gangs or prostitution. In fact while we're at it let's put people having...

So you're saying this idea that work brings you prosperity and meaning is nonsense then. And if they're that poor and relying on wages from employment and not state handouts, who should be taking the blame that these people lived in squalor?

Says the person who made the sweeping statements that all children are future tax payers, all pensioners are previous tax payers and all unemployed people (including migrants) have never and never will be tax payers.

Except that the aims and objectives, as well as the scope and remit of both are completely different. Not everything that counts can be counted and not everything that can be counted counts,.

Got Got Got NEED!

Others seem to have managed to understand it fine...

Just felt like it needed a very big and obvious example to show him he was talking rubbish.

Going to be a shit film. When asked for a sneak preview all he said was "No. Fuckin'. Fightin!"