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I get what you are saying Oakey, and I respect it. But remember that for many decades, the life and soul of football in this country was the thousands of fans standing on the terraces. In reaction to the safety and hooligan issues in the 70s and 80s, billions have been spent by clubs up and down...

Not trying to be obstructive, but apart from various other issues people have mentioned, you've got the away section where the new club shop is.

That does sound simpler than moving the away fans, as long as City fans can be given regular/permanent access to ~half of the South Stand, with just the minimum required away capacity and only a narrow no man’s land. No more empty blocks in a prime part of the stadium. We keep hearing that the...

Mixed signals on this thread. Can we expect some kind of definite proposal from the club soon, as the basis for consultations, or are they just asking people to throw ideas around?

The thing is, Fadz is still fantastic. Age is just a number, and as long as he's good enough he's young enough.

Who has said they are looking to make 10-13 available for home fans? Is that stated in the consultation or are you guessing? Pete's OP just refers to safe standing in 13-16.

Talented attacking player divides opinion shock. I love watching the guy play. Others are welcome to bemoan the fact that he can’t be everywhere at once.

He was dancing past players around the edge of their box around the 80th minute.

It's a breakaway move almost at the end of the game. Bidwell was fresh having not been on long, and no doubt keen to impress is around the penalty spot (luckily the move didn't break down or I'm sure you would have panned him for naive positioning if they went down the other end and scored)...

I was referring to post No. 10, where it was stated that consultations are happening about putting away fans in blocks 23-27.

You think he was in a foot race with Godden?

I only said it was a potential issue. Hopefully something could be done as you suggest.

Why would they start a consultation on something if they know it can't be done?

Yes, the memorial garden is a potential issue if that corner becomes the away section.

Keeping Milan Tatsuhiro van Wisdom up your sleeve?

Been on the margaritas this afternoon shmmeee?

There were 3 points between 6th and 10th last season, and then a further 4 points to 13th. Sneaking into the playoffs is effectively just a question of being the best of the "upper mid table" teams and/or having a touch more luck than the others.

The problem there is that on another thread sight lines were discussed. If 30 is safe standing, a lot of the seating in 31 would have to go. The most practical safe standing is in and around a corner, unless you are going to make a whole end safe standing (which i very much doubt). So yes, I...

If the club are going to invest in safe standing in the current corner for the fans who want it, I can't imagine their intention is for those very fans to move down the other end to stand in one of the seated areas next to the away fans. They'd be exactly back to square one from a safety /...

Enabling the South Stand to become the home end, with the away fans looking into the sun? I'd be all for that.