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He got us to a final, spring of 2018 if you'd have said we'd have been to a semi and a final in that time I'd have called you mad.

Because we rolled the dice that letting them have the ball and trying to break us down would win it for us. It obviously didn't but I still stand by if we scored our third pen we're European champions right now. If that paid off he'd have a knighthood and a statue on the way.

Calling @Brighton Sky Blue

And if Marcus Rashford could put a pen 2 inches to the right Southgate would have turned around a team that hadn't won anything for 55 years who are notoriously difficult to play for with overhyped fan and media expectations into European champions.

Fabio Capello is our greatest manager on win % ever (that has managed for more than 1 game) when he qualified for the world cup he came 2nd in a group containing USA, Algeria and Slovenia and then got battered in the 16s. I don't care how we get where we're getting so long as we get there. Feel...

I also really liked that Italy team but they could only get a goal against us by it bouncing off a defender's arse at a corner then us having 3 terrible penalty misses. If Mancini was that much better at international management he'd have battered Southgate.

Isn't Sam Allardyce exactly that type though? I'm not even a huge fan of Southgate's tactics, I just don't get all the shit he gets when he's one of our most succesful managers ever.

Better to beat a shit German side in a major tournament than beat a great German side in qualifying, do fuck all in the tournament but obsess about it for 20 years.

Jogi Lowe didn't exactly have a brilliant club career and he did alright. A lot of countries actually do well bringing managers through their youth setups as it's different from club football.

Was Germany in the quarters not a major game, was our first semi final win in 50 years not a major game. Nobody gives a shit about the nations league.

The same France that have drawn twice to Ukraine and once to Bosnia in their qualifying group. The same Belgium that piss their qualifying groups and piss their pants at tournaments. We need to get over this obsession of minor games. If he gets to the WC then he's done the job.

Going from losing to a country smaller than Cov to a WC semi and Euro final. It'll do for me, only one more step to go.

Would obviously rather we won but still of the mindset where I don't give a shit so long as we qualify. Then if we qualify don't care if we're patchy in the group so long as we get out of that. All about getting deep into the tournament.

They've got Moldova and unbeaten Denmark left Israel 3 points behind have Austria and Faores.

Are they? Can't finish top of their group so if they get 2nd, which looks likely, then they will have to go through a playoff.

All the modes are boring and they put minimal effort into them. Like players on loan in lower leagues are just on contract now if you play career mode. If you play a player career nobody puts an offer in for you unless you put in a transfer request. FUT is all they care about because idiots pay...

Why has the Hungary shirt got two of the same badge on it, just one is colourful and one is round?

Some nonsense in the politics thread

Get Kane off and just put all of our attacking midfielders on running directly sat them