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And how tax cuts for the rich and businesses never directly lead to more jobs and higher wages, despite that always being the argument.

I remember someone somewhere saying that it was only illustrative and not the actual image used by VAR, though that has never made sense to me. If it's not what the decision is being made on why show it? May as well get one of those court artists in.

I've said he was going to win since he got the nomination. A bit shocked at how seemingly some groups such as women and minorities seemed to have voted for Trump more this time, but not shocked he won overall.

His plan sounds like illegals would just be the start.

I work in an area that's quite deprived and the locals tend to be less educated, poorer people. Election time I heard a lot of people say how the problem was getting rid of Boris, and how Farage should get in as he'd sort it all out. Not really had that many mention the US but those that have...

Shame those people didn't notice that Trump's plan to sort it is to deport them. I guess they also forget that Trump thinks they're all criminals and rapists.

Last time I felt like it would be a shitshow, but a funny one because he was absolutely clueless. He thought he could actually be Presidential. That's pretty much how it turned out. This time, he's not going to for that. He's just going to be Trump. He's going to be vindictive and do what he...

You'd think people would consider it 'woke nonsense' saying nothing positive can come from telling people what they are. Aren't they always "say it how it is" and "call a spade a spade"? If someone tries to shove their fingers in a plug socket they're stupid. They probably wouldn't like hearing...

Oh, they can. We're proof of that with Brexit. Just needs the time for it to be proved.

Now they're just the Reds...

What does it tell you about the quality of the voters?

Anyone still think he won't go for the release clause?

I think it's more likely a UTI.

Well they would obviously check what they could get away with before it would be defined as bribery, but its as close as you can get to it. I wonder what Trump and his supporters reaction would have been had Taylor Swift offered tickets or a meet and greet to those registering to vote for...

5 people died and they attempted to overturn democracy. I think 'not good' doesn't quite cover it.

Not his main job. You're looking for a fault. Don;t remember Ronaldo winning many tackles or making many clearances. Must have been shit.

Some of it's mad. Last week Trump tweeted how he loved the ten commandments, despite the fact he's broken half of them (at least).

Eccles did a superb finish last week.

Of course Trump will do the same as last time. Claim victory after the early lead he's almost certain to get from postal ballots etc. then claim it was rigged if that lead disappears. This time he's even more organised as he'll point to the very dubious polls showing him winning everywhere...

Another false equivalence. Harris has flaws. Everyone does. It's called being human. But whatever flaws she has are nothing compared to Trump's. She will get things wrong. Trump may very well undermine the entire democracy.