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Walker is going too far. But look at what we’ve done for strikers. Spent big on two after losing Vik, while still having Godden who can compete. Should ideally have done the same in central midfield.

Yes, I made my account back in 2015 in anticipation of becoming a fan 8 years later. Also the season ticket I’ve had for 20 years suddenly came in handy!

I don’t think it’s that astounding. We’ve seen enough of Eccles to judge now, and to me it seems clear he doesn’t (yet) have the technical or tactical attributes to push us into the top 6.

Does anyone have more info on the targets we were looking at in midfield and why we didn’t get them? The only substantial rumour I am aware of was Swift on deadline day that couldn’t be done without West Brom paying off some of his contract.

Adding stoppage time on to minutes played is a new one, do you know where that time comes from? 🤣 Palmer was noticeably tired last 20 min.

It really isn’t irrelevant whether or not the best midfielder in the league was playing alongside him. You could’ve put a sack of potatoes in there with Hamer last year and he’d have made it work.

Last year we had Hamer. How many of those 10 games did he play? An Eccles-Kelly midfield should terrify any sane fan.

Bit embarrassing when the United manager is talking about a great performance after losing 3-1 to Arsenal

Stone cold from Jesus

Time (and United’s defence) seemed to stand still as Rice brought that down to strike it.

Not gonna argue any more, but it is fairly obvious last year's league was weak. And this years will be far stronger.

Ok, let’s look at the performance of the promoted teams so far. P10 W0 D1 L9 GF9 GA27 It’s an inarguable fact that last year was a weak league.

Not nonsense at all. The quality was heavily lacking, Luton finished 3rd comfortably, we got 5th with 70 points which usually wouldn’t even get you in the playoffs. This season comparatively is very strong and we won’t get there with Allen and co starting games.

Last year was a freak season, probably one of the easiest ever to get playoffs in. I also wouldn’t really say he was key, he largely started when others were out injured.

Allen is another one who shouldn't be anywhere near the XI if we're serious about top 6.

He came off at 88', and was out on his feet for the last 20 mins. You can hardly get credit for playing 90 if you're only effective for 70.

"at the level we want to be" Eccles is the best we have for now (although if Ayari can sort out his positioning he looks better technically). But he's not enough if we want to be in the top 6.

Was really disappointed with Thomas yesterday - at fault for all 3 I thought. Terrible backpass and backed off his man for the other two. Not sure how he ended up on the left for the first goal though. Kitching - Fadz - Lati is probably the move next time out.

This will be a debate all season. Godden is a poacher. His only real contributions to the build up are linking up play, he's not going to drive us forward like Wright or Palmer can. And with Simms poor he's not going to be taking his place. I do wonder whether we might have dealt better with...

Third goal wasn't Wilson's fault at all, it's a lazy backpass from Thomas. What else was Ben supposed to do?