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You use the " most of us agreed" argument a lot on here . It doesn't mean anything or make a point more valid . Lampard obviously sees the value in retaining Allen and sees enough in Andrews to keep him in the first team squad , perhaps most of you should take it up with him

Now you are just arguing for the sake of it

How? He's an international player who has huge potential , they have to start somewhere and at some point in his career .

Or Woolfenden and a formation change

Depends on the game situation at the time Also Grimes and Allen are both incredibly fit players so could easily play the full 90 if needed

I would keep BTA where he's been effective . Ideally we wouldn't start Andrews just yet so would be happy to see a formation change as long as it didn't impact too much on Grimes ability to dictate play

And some are overestimating them too

Ooh someone's prickly this morning . We still have options A midfield three of Grimes 6 , Allen 8 and Andrews 10 isn't ideal but isn't the end of the world against one of the weaker squads in the division. We could also go 5-4-1 or 5-2-3 with Woolfy coming in and EMC returning

For all our injury woes and fitness issues we also need to remember that Sheffield Wednesday have a paper thin squad who have also played three games in eight days . It's a game we should be looking to win with the form of our attacking players

Don't see why we would drop MvE ? He was still getting up the pitch into injury time

It's apparent he isn't a fan of the loan market but most promoted teams in recent years have had some decent loanees I know that doesn't add to squad depth but the financial rewards must be worth exploring that avenue in January

And I've agreed but I've also agreed with Johnny that he can be a frustrating watch

Rak-Sakyi is playing in Turkey this season

I meant observation as his performance as a whole . I would score him a 7.5/8 for his goals , especially the second but he was frustrating to watch first half

Some still need a boo boy even when we are flying

Wouldn't say that's the worst observation, he was very hot and cold tonight

Rushworth MvE Thomas Kitching JdS Torp/Allen Grimes Eccles BTA Wright Sakamoto

He's maybe taking the pressure off the squad and deflecting attention Mourinho was a master of it

Yet the one we had warmed the bench all night But yes I do agree we do